Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 27th Jun 2008 15:13 UTC
Oracle and SUN Sun UK's chief open-source officer, Simon Phipps, has a high-profile role to play as the company is seeking a complete its move to 100 percent open software development. When asked about the criticism over its commitment to open source, Simon re-iterate its commitment with a "Pig and a Chicken" story: "Both animals were asked by the farmer to bring something along for breakfast one morning to show their worth. The chicken turns up with an egg, while the pig turns up with a side of bacon. The farmer looks over the offerings and says: "Well, the chicken has contributed, but the pig is committed."
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To be commended
by binarycrusader on Fri 27th Jun 2008 18:37 UTC
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2005-07-06

Unlike a lot of companies that have just changed the license of an abandoned product and dumped it "over the wall" -- Sun is actually attempting to change their entire business model and internal processes to fit around open source.

I think that is a big part of why they have had so much difficulty. It's not just about a change in license, they're actually changing their development model internally so that internal and external users go through the same processes for code contribution and integration.

While it has been a rough road, and there are still some things for them to work out, I believe they will eventually have the example model for which other companies can follow.

When you have a company that's over 30,000 employees in size, it takes a long time to effectively communicate that vision to every person and get them to fully understand how to apply that to their daily job.

Edited 2008-06-27 18:38 UTC

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RE: To be commended
by madcrow on Sat 28th Jun 2008 03:05 in reply to "To be commended"
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2006-03-13

I think that is a big part of why they have had so much difficulty. It's not just about a change in license, they're actually changing their development model internally so that internal and external users go through the same processes for code contribution and integration.

They've had one quarter of losses (at the height of one of the worst US economic downturns in years) after 5 quarters straight of healthy profits, which just happen to coincide with Sun's emergence as a FOSS powerhouse. Seems to me like their problems have more to do with the fact that there's less money floating around for fancy servers and workstations, rather than anything to do with open source.

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Support SUN because:
by Kebabbert on Sat 28th Jun 2008 10:33 in reply to "RE: To be commended"
Kebabbert Member since:
2007-07-27

Yes, SUN has lost lots of money on this bold move of opening up all their crown jewels and giving it away for free. I am asking, which other large company has opened up ALL their crown jewels and are giving them away? No one.

Ergo: If you want more companies to open up and give away, then support SUN and their painful process. This shows other companies that SUN is doing the right thing and more companies will follow if they see SUN is successfull.





CEO for a big company: "Hey, SUN is giving away everything, and they are successfull! We should do the same thing!"


Or: "Hey, SUN gave away everything and went bankrupt. Giving away everything is a BAD idea. Above all, do not buy other companies (MySQL, VirtualBox, StarOffice, etc) for billions and give away for free."

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