Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 27th Jun 2008 15:13 UTC
Oracle and SUN Sun UK's chief open-source officer, Simon Phipps, has a high-profile role to play as the company is seeking a complete its move to 100 percent open software development. When asked about the criticism over its commitment to open source, Simon re-iterate its commitment with a "Pig and a Chicken" story: "Both animals were asked by the farmer to bring something along for breakfast one morning to show their worth. The chicken turns up with an egg, while the pig turns up with a side of bacon. The farmer looks over the offerings and says: "Well, the chicken has contributed, but the pig is committed."
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RE: The New World
by tomcat on Fri 27th Jun 2008 21:25 UTC in reply to "The New World"
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2006-01-06

You forgot a couple ...

6. The company tries to attract investor financing with spurious use of the terms "open source" and "leverage" and "community" and "initial public offering" in its business plan.

7. The company lays off all of its staff, files for bankrupty protection, shutters the headquarters due to lack of funding.

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RE[2]: The New World
by kaiwai on Sat 28th Jun 2008 00:17 in reply to "RE: The New World"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

You forgot a couple ...

6. The company tries to attract investor financing with spurious use of the terms "open source" and "leverage" and "community" and "initial public offering" in its business plan.

7. The company lays off all of its staff, files for bankrupty protection, shutters the headquarters due to lack of funding.


Assuming that they use open source as a panacea to fix all of the companies ills, when actual fact, the problem with the company is structural but the management are unwilling to acknowledge it.

The difference is with Sun, they're recognised they have to change, they've not only made open source a 'word' they've also committed to it in the form of restructuring their business model.

The problem is that so many businesses go open source as a last ditch effort, as the silver bullet that will apparently fix all the problems in their company whilst ignoring that open source, although a great idea, isn't going to fix everything.

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RE[3]: The New World
by tomcat on Mon 30th Jun 2008 02:09 in reply to "RE[2]: The New World"
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2006-01-06

Sun's business model is essentially the same as IBM's. They want to sell you hardware and services (eg support). They would have preferred to sell you Solaris, but the reality is that Sun's customers are also HP and IBM's customers, and many of them (if not most) are replacing (or have replaced) expensive proprietary Unixes with Linux. It's always amazed me how, despite having brilliant technologists like James Gosling, Sun never quite figured out how to monetize Java. They had the basic idea right (use Java to sell lots of servers) but, perhaps, their timing was all wrong; or, maybe, they planted their hopes on the wrong businesses (dotcoms). Either way, they got a little too distracted with taking on Microsoft head-to-head with StarOffice and the whole Network Computer (NC) concept. If Sun wants to continue to exist as a company, they need to do what IBM does: create and sell excellent hardware that runs on top of Linux, sell services such as support and consulting, etc). My worry for Sun is that they will become another Cray; that is, they'll pigeonhole themselves into a shrinking high-end market, and slowly starve and die. It's still a viable company. Note to Jonathan Schwartz: Lose the freaking pony-tail. It looks ridiculous.

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