Linked by David Adams on Fri 27th Jun 2008 05:10 UTC, submitted by Ager Ignis
Windows For any given release of Windows, there are companies that choose to skip it. But when the company is Intel, it's a big deal. Intel's IT department "found no compelling case" for upgrading to Windows Vista.
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OlympicSoftworks
Member since:
2008-06-11

An operating system does not exist to chew many system resources itself, it exists to allow applications to run on it and use those resources. The main reason Vista uses the amount of resources that it does is because of the massive amount of code it has to run for every seemingly simple thing you do because of the Trusted(Treacherous) Computing Model that Vista was designed for. Everything you or any application does is scrutinized and prevented from doing things in a straight line in order to keep the machine safe for premium content that you may be trying to pirate.

There are various forms of encryption engines loaded and running at all times, this eats up ram and processor power needlessly the vast majority of the time, but they need to stay there because at any time you may access a website or run software that wants to show or play something for you it does not want you to record. This sounds really bad, but this is honestly what Vista is designed for. Microsoft calls this policy system Palladium. Look it up.

But to answer the second part of your question, you are getting very little in return honestly. The UI looks very nice, and they finally did a good job of memory management...of course GNU/Linux and Apple's OSX had already been doing it for years.

If you want to upgrade, think about what about your machine you want to upgrade, and look into that. Likely you just want a faster machine, and a processor upgrade or more ram may bee what you really need instead of new software.

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blitze Member since:
2006-09-15

Aside from Windows Media Player on Vista x64, where is this "tin foil hat" BS DRM you speak of? Show the documentation that points out that Vista is utilising resources on your computer for tyhis so called "Trusted Computing"!

The only app that MS has bundled with Vista that has any content monitoring on it is Windows Media Player and that my friend can be replaced by 3rd party apps that are not the whore of the RIAA and MPIA.

I have not in over a year of Vista support and use found DRM/TRusted computing to be an issue on my system in any form of media handling or document creation. I do not use WMP for any of my media handling and there is nothing there phoning home about my usage and documents either.

Piss off with your FUD and show us anything different with Vista that is not a part of everyones DRM'd OS-X.

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OlympicSoftworks Member since:
2008-06-11

Piss off with my FUD? Wow, that is amazing! Thanks! I have not been accused of that particular offense before. The tin-foil hat reference, yes, but never FUD.

So here I go with my FUD. A simple google of "microsoft premium content" brought up an array of good info. Plenty of documentation, even from Microsoft themselves admitting that this does indeed take place. Plus, to save you time and provide me with some more typing I will pick up the bat and beat the horse a little more to list a few of the better ones here for you. Most of these were written at the launch of Vista.

Before Vista officially launched Sam Varghese was pointing out some obvious issues with hardware that would have to be purchased to prevent Vista's use from degrading content due to the DRM.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2005/08/03/1122748681367.html

Very dry, very long, but very informative disertation. Be sure to download the PDF slides too, an added bonus!
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html

An opinion piece that goes through some of the things in the paper linked to above. It points out some of the juicier things in case the main paper is too long to read.
http://www.miraesoft.com/karel/2006/12/25/cost-analysis-of-windows-...

Here's a little blurb from the BBC.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6286245.stm

A good piece here that drew some conclusions about the effects of the DRM policies in Vista.
http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?newsid=7675

8 Months after Vista has been released and there are still new articles on this. As predicted the various issues with more pervasive HD content is creating real problems for users.
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/080907-vista-high-def.html

Care to read the whitepaper from Microsoft themselves? Here ya go!
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/media/output_protect.mspx

And from my friends at the FSF.
http://badvista.fsf.org/what-s-wrong-with-microsoft-windows-vista

I could likely find more, but this horse is really starting to stink.

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modmans2ndcoming Member since:
2005-11-09

Sorry, the code is Vista is not bloated. features != bloat.

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