"After the recent release KDE 4.1 beta 2 and openSUSE 11 with KDE 4.0.4, some critics have been especially vocal in expressing their displeasure with the KDE 4 user interface paradigms. The debate has grown increasingly caustic as critics and supporters engage in a war of words over the technology. The controversy has escalated to the point where some users are now advocating a fork in order to move forward the old KDE 3.5 UI paradigms. As an observer who has closely studied each new release of KDE 4, I'm convinced that the fork rhetoric is an absurdly unproductive direction for this debate."
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Member since:2006-03-05
Well, Manuma -- grow up then, and start working on the fork you desire. Join forces with Vaughan-Nichols and anyone else who wants something different.
You can choose -- continue developing KDE3 against Qt3 -- by the way, a KDE 3.5.10 release seems likely anyway.
Or you can start with the ported-but-not-yet refactored state of KDE4. Just pull it out of subversion. The only thing that you need to do is to find a few mates and start working. If you do this, you need to find a nice new name for your project, of course, but that's just basic courtesy someone as grown-up as you is surely capable of.
Member since:2005-11-21
You can choose -- continue developing KDE3 against Qt3 -- by the way, a KDE 3.5.10 release seems likely anyway.
Or you can start with the ported-but-not-yet refactored state of KDE4. Just pull it out of subversion. The only thing that you need to do is to find a few mates and start working. If you do this, you need to find a nice new name for your project, of course, but that's just basic courtesy someone as grown-up as you is surely capable of.
One can always write straight Qt applications and move forward with the Qt4.5/4.6 with 64bit Qt Cocoa to have native OS X applications native Linux applications, not to mention native Windows applications.
There are options.
Member since:2005-11-12
Where are these broken promises you speak of?, plasma is coming along very nicely in trunk, alot of bugs already fixed since beta2.
KDE4.x is very innovative, the problem is that people just dont understand it, possible just like round wheels would never work. i'd also say that Distro like Fedora and and Opensuse implemented their own plasma feature(icon/widget movement in the bar) so if it crashes out plasma it's KDE's fault then?
Change hurts people who dont want to but there is no need to speak about A.Seigo like what people have done. I'm pretty sure that them same people better have an apology ready for him when KDE4.x really starts to rock, 4.1 really does so you'd better have them ready.
Edit: Folking KDE because they can't see the innovation is one of the stupid ideas I've heard.
Edited 2008-07-02 17:54 UTC
Member since:2005-07-06
Sounds like a serious bug to me
Seriously, this is what the whole discussion is about. Nobody doubts the innovation that went into KDE4. On the other hand, the user interface is simply not something people can work it.
Software simply needs to be compatible with the people that use it. This is important for both people unexperienced as people very experienced with computers.
Member since:
2005-07-28
The way I see it is that KDE4 is not surpassing KDE3 in any way, yet, maybe in the future and is not granted, who is willing to waith a year for KDE4.2 since KDE 4.1 is going to be yet another incomplete and unstable release? And no, Im not trolling, I tried the latest build and you can call it a beta, but those are numerous bugs that wont be fixed in time.
I say fork KDE3 since KDE4 is just a bunch of broken promises, oh, but you can't really say it because Aaron Seigo will do his number and close his blog, what an atention whore, I say close your blog and let your work speak for you, but not try to act like the god's gift to linux users, Im so tired of his litle numbers "love me, love my vision, you don't understand", grow up already and take responsability for once.
Edited 2008-07-02 16:53 UTC