KDE 4.1 is supposed to make everything right with the recently troubled desktop. Everyone agrees now that KDE 4.0 was a mistake. However, what the mistake was -- and whose -- is a matter of opinion. KDE developers blame distributions for rushing to include a release that was never intended for everyday use, while users blame developers for changing everything. More here. Also, Tectonic published an article titled "Beyond the desktop with KDE4", while the now well-known for its sarcasm 'Linux Hater' blog has something to say too (warning: some profanity).
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RE[3]: Amazingly poor choice.
RE[4]: Amazingly poor choice.
Member since:2005-08-12
I find your attitude mildly entertaining, considering your regular opining on the lack of professionalism in the OSS world, meanwhile you're a journalist, or at least temporarily pretending to be one, and link to a blatant troll whose post would've most likely been deleted had it been written here, or talked about any other OS/DE/Whatever.
It doesn't matter if you agree with him, a piece consisting of 90% adhominem doesn't belong on a site such a this, and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize why.
Edited 2008-07-05 22:55 UTC
Member since:2005-12-21
That you don't care about OSS and that you prefer to pay for what is for you a better option I can understand. But insulting OSS developers? insulting people giving their time and their work for free? The least you can do is give them respect in return.
To me LH is like a 3 year old crying and whining all the way because he can't have it his way. What is he really complaining about? Plasma and the disappearance of desktop icons... Gosh this is as ridiculous as not wanting a free car because you don't like its color.
And yet again he complains about developers not working on things that really matter to him like better hardware support. Of course he completely glosses over the fact that an application developer is usualy not able to do system development, just like a bloger is rarely also a columnist for the NY Times.
Member since:2005-08-18
Ah, so what you mean by "clued in" and "dead on" is just a matter of that you agree with his is opinions. Good thing we got that sorted out. It explains a lot.
He's not anymore clued in or dead on than what the countless of Windows hating blogs are. They're all lame beyond belief and don't really know jack.
Member since:2006-02-05
This is what I got out of the linux hater post
1) Forking is not the answer
2) Normal people do not want to have to learn all sorts of new paradigms to use their DM
3) If you are going to do something radically different, call it something different. I think the implication was that KDE4 itself should have been a fork
4) To the end user, whether everything is better or not is irrelevant. It being completely different makes it bad.
5) Instead of whiz-bang features like plasmoids, focus on getting stodgy old features like wireless and stand by working really well.
Now, most of the points I don't agree with, a few I do. But regardless, there is definitely intelligence in the sea of profanity.
I think point 3 makes the most sense. Imagine a KDE-experimental branch where ideas are prototyped, reworked, and then backported into the trunk. Would have side stepped alot of the problems that 4 introduced in both the product and the community.
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2007-04-06
Bullshit, Eugenia. I'm a fan of a lot of what you do, but your admiration of the Linux Hater is dead wrong.
I'll admit the excessive use of profanity is a bit off-putting, but I, too, am willing to look past that and get to the meat of the post. Unfortunately, there isn't any, or at least, precious little.
What the Linux Hater does is use profanity to disguise his vacuous opinions. The rationale is that if he expresses his opinion strongly enough, with such forceful language, that to disagree with him would be inviting idiocy. No-one wants to be associated with 'shit-eaters' and 'jackasses'. And anyone who marginally agrees with his side of the issues finds him or herself nodding along, "yeah, stick it to those f--ktards!"
The Linux Hater's conclusion is "So what's the answer? I say f--k 'em all. Go invest your time in something else where the devs aren't so full of themselves." Tell me, is that really worthwhile? Has the hater actually said something interesting and insightful? His conclusion: giving up on open-source development because he doesn't like the community - really the solution?
And the truth is I -would- have a lot more respect for the LH if he could clearly, intelligently and respectfully articulate his opinions. Instead of opting to be a respected voice, he simply ops to be a loud one.
Let us pay him no more heed.