KDE 4.1 is supposed to make everything right with the recently troubled desktop. Everyone agrees now that KDE 4.0 was a mistake. However, what the mistake was -- and whose -- is a matter of opinion. KDE developers blame distributions for rushing to include a release that was never intended for everyday use, while users blame developers for changing everything. More here. Also, Tectonic published an article titled "Beyond the desktop with KDE4", while the now well-known for its sarcasm 'Linux Hater' blog has something to say too (warning: some profanity).
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RE[4]: Amazingly poor choice.
Member since:2007-04-06
Which is a legitimate opinion. I even sympathize a little. I've always found that while remaining preferable to their inexpressive, proprietary brethren, open source projects often tend to lack that little 'polish', that last mile that is needed in a desktop application.
And no, you have been good about not pushing your agenda through your role as staff (at least, until now). In fact, this came as a bit of a surprise to me.
None of this excuses the sort of ignorant, empty, hate-spewing (and really, his name is appropriate - he is full of nothing but hatred) rhetoric that is found on such places as the Linux Hater's blog.
There is a right way and a wrong way to critize. Proper criticism gives those you critique the opportunity to learn and to grow from what you have to say. The Linux Hater, and others like him, resort to simple belittlement and mockery of those that they disagree with.
That's the easy way out.
Member since:2005-07-10
LOL. Judging from your past performance, that's debatable at best.
Just because I can post stories here doesn't mean that I don't have a personal opinion too.
Who said it did? Nobody.
However, if your editing of this site consists of nothing but loudly proclaiming your opinion and abusing every story to grind your axe, you are simply a terrible editor.
And that's that and there is nothing more to add in that, neither it makes sense to conceal this opinion under the pretentious "OSNews' senior editor" title.
The point is, simple abusing your own site for your personal trolling and vengance makes you a terrible editor and OSNews a joke.
And you really should have gotten over the fact the the open source guys and gals didn't want to play with you anymore after you spread lies about them. Oh, wait, you never lie...
This doesn't mean that I put forward my agenda though on the stories I publish.
But that's exactly what you do, making you a pathetic troll, even if you call yourself Senior Editor of some hobby site.
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Member since:2007-08-19
The immature manner in which you are currently acting is inexcusable given your position on this site.
If I acted the way you do, using derogatory profanities (even if you do in fact blank them out), I'd be banned from the site. The editors should not only be held to the same, but a higher and less tolerant standard. What keeps a discussion forum intact and following a precedent is the way any users with a higher title act.
I will NOT spare you the "OMG but you're an OSNews editor". Now, you also have disgraced the title of the site for which you are indeed the editor. You're talking as if you're doing everyone a favor while Thom is away, and that's not true. If you cannot be subjective, and learn to accept the heat for posting an article with questionable information, then I think I'd speak for everyone when I say we'd be better off without you. I saw the same article on digg, it's one thing for an article so biased, and so un-tactful and offensive in delivering it's points to be submitted to a user content site, it's another thing for it to be submitted by an editor of an editor-controlled submission site.
Calling OSS users/developers "lusers" shows an extreme bias. I could understand you saying that OSS has brought you nothing. I can't fault you for that opinion (although I can rightfully agree), however the way you (just like the author), use derogatory language to describe the people who work for a goal which they follow ideologically is uncalled for.
My theory on why you took to such a bitter turn is you have an issue with admitting fault. I don't know if you really do feel this strongly for the article, but rather you don't want to be proven wrong. In which case, that Senior Editor tag you don't care about really does mean something to you. I'm basing this on two semesters of psychology I had.
The bottom line from all of this is that you acted in a near childish manner, unable to accept the criticism of the site's users. You were offensive, linked to a questionable article, demeaned the title of Editor (essentially showing you don't care), demeaning the site as a whole, and overall acted in a site that damages the atmosphere of the community.
My feeling, and I'm sure most will agree with me, is that you should be dismissed from your position. If you don't like it, I, and I think most can agree with me, we would rather not have you around if you're going to act like this.
Member since:2005-08-12
I find your attitude mildly entertaining, considering your regular opining on the lack of professionalism in the OSS world, meanwhile you're a journalist, or at least temporarily pretending to be one, and link to a blatant troll whose post would've most likely been deleted had it been written here, or talked about any other OS/DE/Whatever.
It doesn't matter if you agree with him, a piece consisting of 90% adhominem doesn't belong on a site such a this, and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize why.
Edited 2008-07-05 22:55 UTC
RE[5]: Amazingly poor choice.
Member since:2005-12-21
That you don't care about OSS and that you prefer to pay for what is for you a better option I can understand. But insulting OSS developers? insulting people giving their time and their work for free? The least you can do is give them respect in return.
To me LH is like a 3 year old crying and whining all the way because he can't have it his way. What is he really complaining about? Plasma and the disappearance of desktop icons... Gosh this is as ridiculous as not wanting a free car because you don't like its color.
And yet again he complains about developers not working on things that really matter to him like better hardware support. Of course he completely glosses over the fact that an application developer is usualy not able to do system development, just like a bloger is rarely also a columnist for the NY Times.
Member since:2008-07-06
I have to admit, I don't really know what all the fuss is about... If I understand it correctly, you can setup one plasmoid that covers all the desktop and set it to show all files from ~/Desktop + any dynamic ones (CD, flash drives etc). How is that any different from what you have now? The fact that you can do more is, well, just extra?
Member since:2005-08-18
Ah, so what you mean by "clued in" and "dead on" is just a matter of that you agree with his is opinions. Good thing we got that sorted out. It explains a lot.
He's not anymore clued in or dead on than what the countless of Windows hating blogs are. They're all lame beyond belief and don't really know jack.
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2005-06-28
Sorry, but I agree with what LH says. You assumed that I linked to LH's post out of ignorance. But no, "F--k 'em all" is what I believe too. That's why I have been missing in action from osnews for years now, and I am only back until Thom gets well from his health problem. Because I really don't care what these OSS lusers do anymore, I have lost my faith in them. After 17 years out there, they don't offer me a more usable OS than either Mac OS X or XP. So for me, Linux Hater's "f--k 'em all", is a straight ace.
Edited 2008-07-05 22:44 UTC