Linked by Eugenia Loli-Queru on Sat 5th Jul 2008 22:03 UTC
KDE 4.1 is supposed to make everything right with the recently troubled desktop. Everyone agrees now that KDE 4.0 was a mistake. However, what the mistake was -- and whose -- is a matter of opinion. KDE developers blame distributions for rushing to include a release that was never intended for everyday use, while users blame developers for changing everything. More here. Also, Tectonic published an article titled "Beyond the desktop with KDE4", while the now well-known for its sarcasm 'Linux Hater' blog has something to say too (warning: some profanity).
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But then just a couple days ago there was a big series of posts by KDE bloggers about how they didn't need any users at all, and they should just go f*** themselves if they didn't like KDE4.
Well since there never where such blogs, it's how people making a feather grow into a hen. So pleas stop inventing things that was newer said.
The core of what the KDE bloggers said was simply, the users that do not contribute in one way or another does not have any effect on the project. And it's rather obvious and logical to most people that something not having any effect are not needed. The total effect of one or 10 million users without any contribution one way or another, are exact the same, zero.
Member since:2005-10-13
Well since there never where such blogs, it's how people making a feather grow into a hen. So pleas stop inventing things that was newer said.
I'm sorry, but it was said. From http://troy-at-kde.livejournal.com/17753.html
"Does KDE even need users?"
If the users are harming the project, we don't need those users. I've hesitated to tell these users to (quoting the recently deceased Carlin) "go outside and play hide and go f--k yourself."
If the users are harming the project, we don't need those users. I've hesitated to tell these users to (quoting the recently deceased Carlin) "go outside and play hide and go f--k yourself."
Edit: To be fair, he mentioned at the top that it was a rant and later apologized for it. But the post spawned a great deal of discussion among other KDE developers, with many agreeing with the position at least to some degree. (And others disagreeing whole heartedly.)
Edited 2008-07-06 08:44 UTC
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I'm someone who isn't really a big fan of Eugenia, and I don't really think she should be left in charge of this site with the opinions she has - surely there's someone else who could take over, isn't there?
That said, I didn't think the Linux Hater blog was nearly as bad as I was expecting after reading the comments here. Sure there's this part:
But then just a couple days ago there was a big series of posts by KDE bloggers about how they didn't need any users at all, and they should just go f*** themselves if they didn't like KDE4. So maybe he has a good point, in that people should stop expecting developers of open source projects to treat them like gods. The devs are the ones in charge of the project and can do whatever they want.
The problem is that's about his only point - the rest of it is just a rant. Eugenia, for future reference this kind of thing probably belongs on your personal blog and not the front of OSNews. I hope you can see why there should be a difference in the content between the two.
Edited 2008-07-06 04:57 UTC