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And the congregation rises . . .
by startxjeff on Mon 7th Jul 2008 14:18
in reply to "RE[3]: This is good news"
Amen!
I liked the idea of Automatix, I didn't like the non-Debian way in which it was implemented.
Besides, I'm even somewhat leary of using backports on an Etch installation, which is why I have use Etch to work, Lenny to play, and Sid to learn.
Of course, Ubuntu isn't Debian stable either.






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Adding an easier-to-use more special-purpose apt front end would be fine, and it would address the shortcomings you find with synaptic. The answer is *not* to add in an additional third party package manager.
By layering on more software about which the normal system--and by this I mean apt--is completely ignorant is a recipe for disaster. First of all, package management is a hard problem which automatix solves not at all. It just throws stuff on and hopes it will work. Secondly, since apt does not know about the random junk that may or may not have been thrown on it cannot handle it gracefully and is more likely (more apt? hehe) to break in the future.
Adding non-apt stuff to a Debian-type system is fine, if you know what you're doing. Users of automatix almost by definition do not possess that kind of expertise.
What would be wrong with doing *exactly* what automatix does, GUI-wise, and providing *exactly* the same software, but in the form of .deb files in an apt repository? It would be entirely possible, and actually easier since you would be leveraging the existing capabilities of the system. No one would object to such a tool.
Instead you have automatix which, much in the manner of DOS and Windows installers of old, charges through your system in an uncontrolled and irresponsible manner, changing who knows what with completely unknown consequences.
Fedora users should stay away. They already have a package manager.
Edited 2008-07-07 11:31 UTC