Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 12th Jul 2005 20:16 UTC
Debian and its clones Two companies previously mentioned as being involved with the project, Mandriva and Turbolinux, appear to not be participating at this time. Progeny Linux Systems continues to leading the way.
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RE: Ubuntu
by Morty on Tue 12th Jul 2005 22:32 UTC
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2005-07-06

Unfortunately Ubuntu is splitting up the Debian world heavily with its fork

I'd guess the main reason for Ubuntu to start deviate more and more from Debian, is caused by the lack of progress on Debians part. The major failure of Debian regarding releases and keeping up to date, forces the user centric distributions to fork more heavily. This seems to be caused by the lack of will, among parts of the debian comunity and the leaders like Murdock, to actually deliver a distribution. Insted they engage in some unproductive exercises in patting themselves on the back and self-righteous celebration of their community.

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RE[2]: Ubuntu
by Anonymous Penguin on Tue 12th Jul 2005 22:46 in reply to "RE: Ubuntu"
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2005-07-06

What doesn't add up here, IMO, is that it is perfectly possible to take a branch of Debian (normally testing or unstable) and patch it for your own needs without forking. Even the heavily criticized Linspire is still 98% Debian compatible (I dist-upgraded it to Sid with very few problems).

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RE[3]: Ubuntu
by cr8dle2grave on Tue 12th Jul 2005 22:59 in reply to "RE[2]: Ubuntu"
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2005-07-11

Because Ubuntu uses it's own repositories (with packages existing in their own "namespace"), not the offcial Debian ones, which is the only reasonable way to release a "freeze" of the unstable branch that can then be maintained with security patches over the course of the 18 months Canonical has committed to.

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RE[2]: Ubuntu
by on Wed 13th Jul 2005 17:04 in reply to "RE: Ubuntu"
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This sort of thing is precisely why Mandrake split from RedHat so long ago. Redhat was getting slow and sloppy in updating their core OS and Mandrake wanted more...

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