Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 24th Jul 2008 22:04 UTC
Windows As someone who uses Windows Vista practically daily, I've always wondered where all the negativity in the media comes from. Sure, Vista isn't perfect (as if any operating system is), but I just don't see where all the complaints are coming from. It runs just fine on my old (6 years) machine, all my software and hardware is compatible, and it's stable as a rock. Microsoft has been wondering the same thing, and after a little test, they may have found out why people seem to dislike Vista so much.
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RE: I Hate Vista
by melkor on Fri 25th Jul 2008 03:44 UTC in reply to "I Hate Vista"
melkor
Member since:
2006-12-16

The reason why you can't say "yes, and don't ask me again" is because the next time it comes up, it might be caused by something malicious.

I've been using Vista for the past 5 weeks and I love it - looks brilliant, stable, fast (very fast actually), reliable - it *just* works. And I'm using the 64 bit version, which supposedly has more problems than you can poke a stick at.

UAC is not a major issue at all, certainly no worse than dropping to a terminal in Linux and having to su or sudo to gain root access.

If you're going to whinge about something, then at least whinge about something that's worth while.

Dave

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RE[2]: I Hate Vista
by TheBashar on Fri 25th Jul 2008 05:54 in reply to "RE: I Hate Vista"
TheBashar Member since:
2005-06-30

Are you serious? I'm not saying it should never ask again about anything, but give me the option to say I trust this executable. It's like saying "you're trying to use an unsigned grep, do you trust it?" and then five minutes later "you're trying to use an unsigned grep, do you trust it?", and again, and again, and again, ad infinitum.

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RE[2]: I Hate Vista
by kaiwai on Fri 25th Jul 2008 07:31 in reply to "RE: I Hate Vista"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

[q]The reason why you can't say "yes, and don't ask me again" is because the next time it comes up, it might be caused by something malicious.[/quote]

Did you read the whole request, he wants it on a per-application basis. What is so hard about UAC running an md5 against the exe file in question, store the result of that exe so that the next time it is loaded it is just a matter of a quick check against the stored md5 to see if it is the same exe - and allow the application to run?

Geeze, I thought of a solution just then that addresses the fundamental problem and the perceived security implications in under a minute. It isn't rocket science - just good old fashioned commonsense.

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RE[3]: I Hate Vista
by casuto on Fri 25th Jul 2008 08:14 in reply to "RE[2]: I Hate Vista"
casuto Member since:
2007-02-27

What is so hard about UAC running an md5 against the exe file in question.


IT'S NOT POSSIBLE!

First example:
1. user executes destroy.exe: UAC prompt, user clicks on "always consent"
2. malware executes destroy.exe, no prompt because the exe is the same.
-> you're pwned!

Second example:
1. user changes a firewall rule: UAC prompt, user clicks on "always consent"
2. malware changes a firewall rule, no prompt because the firewall configurator executable is the same.
-> you're pwned!

Third example:
1. user copies a file in c:\windows using windows explorer: UAC prompt, user clicks on "always consent"
2. malware copy a trojan in c:\windows, no prompt because the copy command executable or the explorer.exe is the same.
-> you're pwned!

Edited 2008-07-25 08:31 UTC

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