It's not exactly bliss and angels in the Amiga world. AmigaOS 4.0, while done, released, and updated, is hard to come by because you either need a supported classic Amiga, or one of the three Amiga Ones ever sold. With a lawsuit underway nobody really understands, and no interest whatsoever from any hardware vendor, the future looks rather grim. On the MorphOS side the grass isn't exactly a whole lot greener. MorphOS 2.0 has been released, but again, nobody is producing any decent hardware for the operating system to run on. Genesi sells the Efika-based OpenClient, but this device lacks the graphical chipset to power the new 3D features of MorphOS 2.0. In addition, MorphOS 2.0 has a hefty price tag of EUR 150. There is a third option, which has been making steady progress for years now: AROS.
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Member since:2005-07-06
There's a business here? You mean a real one, with sales and profits - real products that people purchase and use. Wow, I never knew that. I thought it was just a front for the lawyers. Cool!
Member since:2005-07-06
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out there's business going on from a varierty of perspectives. Else there wouldn't be costly lawsuits being funded.
Of course the companies look at the long term perspective with regard to the IP issues. There are many companies out there which are currently only at a R&D stage without making a dime so far.
Member since:2008-07-28
My god Bouma are you still around sprouting this rubbish? Have the years since 2005 totally passed you by?
There has never been anything proven about the use of AmigaOS code in MOS... go on, name your "external sources"... oh wait, you can't because they only exist in your weird little head.
Given the fact that MOS had to use AROS code and that Hyperion themselves stated that "very little 3.1 code" is acttually used in OS4... what value would the MOS team gain from using an aging, out of date mess of source code?
You don't actually know how much code has gone between MOS and AROS, and I know you don't actually care... you are biggoted and delusional, which probably explains why amigaworld got fed up of you.
I find it hard to believe that there is a human being alive, who is so capable of self delusion as yourself, it leads me to think that you must have some malcious purpose... but I can't for the life of me figure out that it is... perhaps Einstein was right, perhaps there are only two things in this universe that are infinite and you are the shining example of that...
Member since:2005-11-17
Mike,
Let me sum it up to you here:
1. Genesi has gone on to make hardware and support Linux. They work with companies like Freescale and IBM on a regular basis. These are not small companies, and they have legal departments (especially IBM) that have been over this multiple times.
2. Both Amiga Inc. and Genesi have moved on from the incessant trolling that ruined multiple sites. Since that time period, OS 4 has been released, MOS 2.0 has been released, and Hyperion (who are doing this out of love at this point) is working on AmigaOS 4.1, despite the legal wrangling going on.
3. If Amiga Inc. has something to say, or something to do, they need to do it, not you. By making comments like this, you're actually hurting their chances by making these specious arguments without hard evidence.
Unless you're a legal representative of either company that has access to documentation of this matter that we don't, then you need to keep quiet and let Bill McEwen, Bill Buck, Hyperion, and their lawyers sort these situations out. It's their problem, not yours.
4. AROS is an alternative. It's different, and its Open Source. It's meant to carry on the traditions that made Amiga a good name, which involve letting people develop their own parts of it or modify it if they wish. It's a project that unfortunately doesn't have the programming talent of the Friedens, but it has momentum and users. Taking a slag at it because of "results" doesn't make you look any better.
Thank you.
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2005-07-06
There were problems between mainly Amiga Inc and partners and Genesi & devs, those initially supporting the MorphOS project.
Amiga Inc alledged the MorphOS team copied parts of the AmigaOS 3.x source code (there are various external sources backing up this allegation, this is also accepted by various people within the MorphOS community). Genesi also put themselves into the spotlight by making endless degrading comments about the AmigaOS4 project, Amiga Inc, Hyperion and Eyetech's AmigaOne hardware. It had given away many Pegasos boards to various loudmouthed ex-Amiga fans which trolled on all Amiga forums for whatever reason.
Amiga.org was once sponsored by Genesi and the webmaster was employed by that company, as revealed later on. Some articles and comments on Amiga.org resulted into Amiga Inc and partners thinking that having the Amiga name endorsed for this website would go against their business interests.
Meanwhile the Amiga.org webmaster experienced servere problems with Genesi and all ties were broken, similarly between most of the MorphOS development team and Genesi. Things have calmed down considerably since then.
Currently eyes are mainly on the Hyperion vs Amiga Inc court case, which are battling for IP rights.
AROS and MorphOS are losely connected as MorphOS borrowed much from AROS, but AFAIK contributed back very little. IMO from a user perspective OS4 and MorphOS are far ahead of what AROS currently offers, IMO full time dedicated developers yielded much greater results so far (vs spare time hobby programmers).
Edited 2008-07-28 07:30 UTC