Linked by Tony Steidler-Dennison on Mon 28th Jul 2008 17:32 UTC, submitted by zaboing
Oracle and SUN In an interview with, Novell developer Michael Meeks talks mostly about Sun's lack of openness in regards to He goes as far as stating that if Sun dropped out of OOo-development this "wouldn't be an entirely negative thing". He also goes on to talk about promoting Go-oo instead, and emphasizes the importance of breaking down the barriers between GNOME and KDE.
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Novell - Sun
by jbijnens on Mon 28th Jul 2008 17:48 UTC
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Novell employees should take a bit more care about what they are saying.
Sun has bought StarDivision in the past. StarDivision is the original developer of StarOffice.
It was Sun who has opensourced StarOffice.
This was/is the basis of OpenOffice.
So without Sun there was no OpenOffice.

Just my 2c,

John Bijnens

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RE: Novell - Sun
by evangs on Mon 28th Jul 2008 17:52 in reply to "Novell - Sun"
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This is essentially a Novell developer taking potshots at Sun while promoting a project he's involved in. Is it a project sponsored by Novell? They seem really coy about disclosing any of their affiliations on the website (notice the lack of any solid info in the About page).

Ironically, would not exist if Sun hadn't opened up Star Office in the first place and it's highly dubious what that project seeks to achieve.

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RE[2]: Novell - Sun
by Ford Prefect on Mon 28th Jul 2008 19:23 in reply to "RE: Novell - Sun"
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I don't like this project just for the reason you pointed out: It is obvious that it is ran by Novell but they don't openly admit it.

Instead they list individual employees as the developers of the project. Then they do press work like this, talking bad about OpenOffice while promoting their fork.

This is not the expected behaviour of a good free software citizen.

It is also obvious what the main goals of Novell are with this software suite: strengthening the relationship with Microsoft (while effectively weakening ODF) on several fronts. While better interoperability is always a good thing, the question remains unanswered what parts/developments of OpenOffice went missing in Go-OO for this.

As an individual developer, wether you work on OpenOffice or on Go-OO, you just get involved into a fight between some big software companies. At least on of these talks about openness and freedom, while signing contracts with on of the biggest enemys of this very freedom. No thanks.

Edited 2008-07-28 19:24 UTC

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RE[2]: Novell - Sun
by danieldk on Mon 28th Jul 2008 19:36 in reply to "RE: Novell - Sun"
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Is it a project sponsored by Novell?

Follow the whois ;) :

Registrant Name:Michael Meeks
Registrant Organization:Novell, Inc.

So, yes, it seems to be a Novell project.

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RE[2]: Novell - Sun
by calc on Thu 31st Jul 2008 23:44 in reply to "RE: Novell - Sun"
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Knowing him, I was actually surprised at how nice he was in the interview towards Sun. Yes, Go-OO is heavily contributed to and sponsored by Novell, but nearly all Linux distributions use it (Fedora uses patches from it but not go-oo directly) and contribute to it as well. All you have to do is look at the commit logs in subversion[0] to see that. And Go-OO isn't just a couple of patches like some people seem to think, there are currently over 750 patches that are applied to 3.0. Many if not most of those patches are licensed such that Sun could apply them to the official release if their commit process wasn't so slow and hard.


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