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RE: Osx - Macintosh combo
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 1st Aug 2008 06:00
in reply to "Osx - Macintosh combo"
For example they might imply that the pricing for Macosx in retail stores doesn't reflect the value of the product hey're selling, rather being a nominal upgrade fee where the initial R&D costs for developing the Operating systems are being payed when you purchase the Mac hardware + MacOSX software combination.
I hear this a lot, but, uhm, how is this relevant? What business is it of mine that Apple sells retail copies of their software at a price that doesn't cover its costs? That's an Apple business decision, and has abslutely nothing to do with the case at hand.
This court case is going to be all about Apple needing to prove PsyStar is actually modifying Apple software, something that's going to be difficult for Apple since, as far as I know, PsyStar simply adds some scripts to OS X - it doesn't modify anything.
RE[2]: Osx - Macintosh combo
by Anacardo on Fri 1st Aug 2008 09:32
in reply to "RE: Osx - Macintosh combo"
I hear this a lot, but, uhm, how is this relevant? What business is it of mine that Apple sells retail copies of their software at a price that doesn't cover its costs? That's an Apple business decision, and has abslutely nothing to do with the case at hand.
You're absolutely right, it's not directly related to this case, unless they're able to prove that the hw+sw combo constitute a single product rather than two separate products. But since most of the people seems to be very happy about the perspective of Apple loosing in court and the beginning of a new Clone-era (I know some of us in here would be happy to see Apple loose not because of this but because of the general impact it would have on eulas) I would just say that from a user-perspective (possibly a would be mac user perspective), it would probably end up being worse than it actually sounds.
RE[2]: Osx - Macintosh combo
by lurch_mojoff on Fri 1st Aug 2008 17:13
in reply to "RE: Osx - Macintosh combo"
"For example they might imply that the pricing for Macosx in retail stores doesn't reflect the value of the product hey're selling, rather being a nominal upgrade fee where the initial R&D costs for developing the Operating systems are being payed when you purchase the Mac hardware + MacOSX software combination.
I hear this a lot, but, uhm, how is this relevant? What business is it of mine that Apple sells retail copies of their software at a price that doesn't cover its costs? That's an Apple business decision, and has abslutely nothing to do with the case at hand. "
Would you hold the same position if the case was a bit different - me purchasing an upgrade copy of program X and using a script to remove the step in the installer asking me for the license key of the the previous version? Would it still be DeveloperOfX's problem that they made the business decision to sell upgrade copies? Would I still be absolved of any responsibility because I've payed for the software?





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I believe Apple might want to try to enforce the fact that the Macintosh - MacOSX combination is actually something more than software + hardware. For example they might imply that the pricing for Macosx in retail stores doesn't reflect the value of the product hey're selling, rather being a nominal upgrade fee where the initial R&D costs for developing the Operating systems are being payed when you purchase the Mac hardware + MacOSX software combination. Indeed they migt even have a point there, if people/companies are starting to buy macosx and install it on clones, Apple might be "forced" into asking a "proof of purchase" for each copy of OSX or even make OSX install only as an update to an existing installation. Which reminds me of certain proprietary commercial OS (ehm). If that wouldn't work, they might even consider rising the prices to a certain level (again to the same level of some other proprietary commercial Oses ehm). With all of this in mind and by not being a Mac user, I honestly don't care too much if Apple wins or not, but if I were (a mac user) I would certainly hope for Apple to win.