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RE[3]: Perhaps in the enterprise, but...
by red_devel on Wed 6th Aug 2008 22:21
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So what you're saying is that in order for Linux to succeed on the home pc, Microsoft has to produce something worse than Vista? I'd much rather see software succeed, or not, upon its own design and concepts, not because some other company screwed up
Yeah, I agree completely, thats what I'd like to see too. The point is, thanks to Microsoft's monopoly and business practices, thats NOT whats happening currently. I don't really think you can argue that Window's (Vista especially, but even XP) 'design & concepts' warrant the success (measured in install base) that it sees.
The point is even WITH Microsoft releasing a dud like Vista, its really hard for an operating like Linux, with plenty of technical merits, to make any inroads. This is thanks to the huge momentum Windows has, and Microsoft leverages at every chance they get to keep users unfairly locked in.
RE[4]: Perhaps in the enterprise, but...
by jbauer on Wed 6th Aug 2008 22:41
in reply to "RE[3]: Perhaps in the enterprise, but..."
The point is even WITH Microsoft releasing a dud like Vista, its really hard for an operating like Linux, with plenty of technical merits, to make any inroads.
Or maybe Vista has been badmouth to death but it's actually a reasonably good OS, while Linux on the desktop still leaves a lot to be desired.
RE[3]: Perhaps in the enterprise, but...
by renox on Wed 6th Aug 2008 22:37
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If you're only counting direct association "Vista is too heavy --> I'll use Linux" very few did this, it's true.
Now if you think about the EEE PC, you may ask yourself *why* is-it coming with Linux in the first place?
The most likely answer is: Vista is too heavy for this PC and Microsoft is trying to kill XP: so Asus chose to use Linux.. So yes, Vista heavy resource usage, did increase Linux adoption (*).
*: well at least temporarily: as usual Microsoft reacted swiftly to anything which can damage their monopoly so they now say "use XP for low performance computer, it's ok!".
RE[3]: Perhaps in the enterprise, but...
by dbodner on Thu 7th Aug 2008 20:19
in reply to "RE[2]: Perhaps in the enterprise, but..."
"I wouldn't count Linux out yet. All it takes is a little help from Microsoft (another Vista-like or worse-than-Vista "success" with their next Windows release).
So what you're saying is that in order for Linux to succeed on the home pc, Microsoft has to produce something worse than Vista? I'd much rather see software succeed, or not, upon its own design and concepts, not because some other company screwed up, and it's the lesser of two evils. I'm not saying Vista was great by any means, but seriously, how many more Linux adoptions did we see? Most of those who either hated Vista or had serious problems with it either stayed with XP or went over to the Mac. "
With some users having 15+ years of how they're used to using desktops, there's going to have to be a huge motivating factor to get people to change. It's going to take more than linux to be good for people to forgo their resistance to change. It's going to take a colossal screw-up by Microsoft. Despite peoples frustrations with Vista, it's not exactly like OSX is enjoying even double digit market share at this point.







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So what you're saying is that in order for Linux to succeed on the home pc, Microsoft has to produce something worse than Vista? I'd much rather see software succeed, or not, upon its own design and concepts, not because some other company screwed up, and it's the lesser of two evils. I'm not saying Vista was great by any means, but seriously, how many more Linux adoptions did we see? Most of those who either hated Vista or had serious problems with it either stayed with XP or went over to the Mac.