Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 9th Aug 2008 19:19 UTC
Microsoft One of the common complaints regarding Microsoft is that the company has problems eating its own dog food. Even though it promoted Windows Presentation Foundation as the programming framework for building Windows and web applications, it so far failed to produce any significant WPF applications itself. None of Microsoft's major applications use WPF (Expression Design and Blend aren't major), which does not help in promoting it as the Next Big Thing. This may all change in the near future, as a small but extremely popular Microsoft application is about to make the switch to Windows Presentation Foundation: MSN Windows Live Messenger.
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by Manuma on Sat 9th Aug 2008 19:41 UTC
Manuma
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2005-07-28

Yahoo is doing the same with its Yahoo messenger.

Im glad with this, because WPF is a great platform.

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by Kroc on Sat 9th Aug 2008 20:05 in reply to "..."
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

Yes, but is MSN a great app?

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by WorknMan on Sat 9th Aug 2008 20:28 in reply to "..."
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

Im glad with this, because WPF is a great platform.


Is it really? I haven't ran across any WPF apps myself... do they run faster and consume less resources than those written in Windows Forms?

If it's really that good, I'd like to see MS Office, Visual Studio, and all the major MS apps written in WPF, or even .NET for that matter.

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by Thom_Holwerda on Sat 9th Aug 2008 20:29 in reply to "RE: ..."
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2005-06-29

written in WPF, or even .NET for that matter.


WPF is .NET. Well, a part of .NET, at least.

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by Gunderwo on Sat 9th Aug 2008 22:16 in reply to "RE: ..."
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2006-01-03

do they run faster and consume less resources than those written in Windows Forms?


I haven't worked with WPF personally. But I think you need to evaluate it on more criteria then how many resources it consumes and how fast it is (whatever that means). Other factors that should also influence an assessment of the technology is what kind of things can you do with it that you can't with older technologies? Does it allow fancy new transformations and widgits? Does it help to separate presentation from business logic? Is it easier to program? Design? API's?

So while I would like to see it run at least as fast as winforms or older technologies and it likely will consume more resources if it's doing more under the hood. If I were writing a windows application I would be more concerned about some of the points I raised in the previous paragraph than resources and some obscure metric of speed.

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by Manuma on Sun 10th Aug 2008 02:11 in reply to "RE: ..."
Manuma Member since:
2005-07-28

WPF is fully hardware accelerated witch means is faster than WinForms, the memory is pretty much the same or better since it uses video memory.

The benefits it has for the developer are great, I've used it and is a loooot easier than WinForms and a loooooooottttt more flexible,

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