Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 13th Aug 2008 00:10 UTC, submitted by superstoned
Qt The dot reports on the new version of Qt, as discussed by Qt developers Simon Hausmann and Andreas Aardal Hanssen. Much optimizations have already gone in the 4.5 development tree, and more is to come. You can also expect many functional improvements to the WebKit webbrowser engine, graphical effects and a new animations API.
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RE: webkit & Gecko
by smitty on Thu 14th Aug 2008 01:02 UTC in reply to "webkit & Gecko "
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2005-10-13

I'm getting the impression you don't know what Webkit is.

Apple didn't fork webkit, they forked KHTML which created webkit. Webkit is what Safari is using.

Qt 4.4 has an older version of webkit that they spent a while porting, and it has quite a few limitations. The last I heard, 4.5 was going to update it to the latest trunk code available and be much improved.

Edited 2008-08-14 01:05 UTC

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RE[2]: webkit & Gecko
by Sabz on Thu 14th Aug 2008 04:36 in reply to "RE: webkit & Gecko "
Sabz Member since:
2005-07-07

I'm getting the impression you don't know what Webkit is.

Apple didn't fork webkit, they forked KHTML which created webkit. Webkit is what Safari is using.

Qt 4.4 has an older version of webkit that they spent a while porting, and it has quite a few limitations. The last I heard, 4.5 was going to update it to the latest trunk code available and be much improved.
i admit i dont know much about webkit, my undersstanding they did fork webkit an gave it to the Opensource Devs to Make something from it or out of it

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RE[3]: webkit & Gecko
by asupcb on Thu 14th Aug 2008 05:54 in reply to "RE[2]: webkit & Gecko "
asupcb Member since:
2005-11-10

No Apple did a code dump on the KHTML people after the initial version of Safari was released and their was much complaining about a lack of code sharing. The KHTML people then complained about just having a heap of code dumped on them and pointed out that they could share code and ideas and speed up things all around. Eventually Apple turned Webkit completely open source. I'm not sure how exactly Webkit and its components are controlled though.

Does anyone know what kind of governance model the Webkit community uses?

Currently, Webkit is a fork of KHTML but they also share some code. KHTML strives to maintain a cleaner design than Apple does so they are quite similar but different. Kind of like the difference between Ubuntu and Debian. (I realize its not a perfect analogy but analogies aren't meant to be perfect.)

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RE[3]: webkit & Gecko
by lemur2 on Thu 14th Aug 2008 06:19 in reply to "RE[2]: webkit & Gecko "
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

"I'm getting the impression you don't know what Webkit is. Apple didn't fork webkit, they forked KHTML which created webkit. Webkit is what Safari is using. Qt 4.4 has an older version of webkit that they spent a while porting, and it has quite a few limitations. The last I heard, 4.5 was going to update it to the latest trunk code available and be much improved.
i admit i dont know much about webkit, my undersstanding they did fork webkit an gave it to the Opensource Devs to Make something from it or out of it "

You have got it the wrong way around. KHTML is the origin of the codebase. Webkit and Safari are based on KHTML, not the other way around.

http://www.mozillazine.org/poll_results.html?id=2820
http://dot.kde.org/1041971213/
http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2003-01-07-022-26-OS...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_(web_browser)#History_and_development

"On January 7, 2003, Steve Jobs announced that Apple had developed their own web browser based on KHTML rendering engine, called Safari. ... Safari uses Apple's WebKit for rendering web pages and running JavaScript. WebKit consists of WebCore (based on Konqueror's KHTML engine) and JavaScriptCore (based on KDE's JavaScript engine named KJS)."

Apple made some improvements to the original KHTML code and were a bit tardy in giving some of those improvements back to KHTML as they were supposed to. It took a bit of reminding to get Apple to do the right thing.

"In June 2005, after some criticism from KHTML developers over lack of access to change logs, Apple moved the development source code and bug tracking of WebCore and JavaScriptCore to OpenDarwin.org. WebKit itself was also released as open source. The source code for non-renderer aspects of the browser, such as its GUI elements, remains proprietary."

Edited 2008-08-14 06:20 UTC

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