Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 18th Aug 2008 23:33 UTC, submitted by Charles Wilson
Editorial GoboLinux is a distribution which sports a different file system structure than 'ordinary' Linux distributions. In order to remain compatible with the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard, symbolic links are used to map the GoboLinux tree to standard UNIX directories. A post in the GoboLinux forums suggested that it might be better to turn the concept around: retain the FHS, and then use symbolic links to map the GoboLinux tree on top of it. This sparked some interesting discussion. Read on for more details.
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RE: Do we care? Really?
by Decius on Tue 19th Aug 2008 03:23 UTC in reply to "Do we care? Really?"
Decius
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2006-01-03

In a world where we could guarantee that everything we do (or try to do) with our computers will work out just fine, we wouldn't care. We, however, do not live in such a world, and even experts can bork-up there systems. This is why backups are so essential. There are times, though, when replacing a messed-up drive or partition with an image is just plain overkill, especially in the *nixes, where with a little help and some reading, it is possible for even relative noobies to fix a lot of problems without even needing to reboot...IF they can find things. This is why the FSH needs a revamp to a more consistent and common-sense model, for the sake of users and those who must support them.

P.S. Before the usual replies start coming back that 'people aren't ready or interested in diving deeper into their computers'. Let me tell you I am a computer technician who specializes in custom intalls on all manners of hardware, and educating new users. My main customer base is 50 years old and up, and brand new at computing. Many still find the mouse to be an object of hate, as they find it difficult to get used to. I have, of course, installed various Windows, but I have also successfully gotten them to use PC-BSD, Ubuntu, Mandriva (when it was Mandrake), and even gotten a few to use BeOS 8^) They have all been able to learn, and more or less to take care of their own machines. If they call for support, I can tell them to got to /home/apps, or /etc, or ..\Documents and Settings\... or whatever, and they will fix their own boxes. So, yes, I am speaking from real world experience.

Edited 2008-08-19 03:31 UTC

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RE[2]: Do we care? Really?
by leos on Tue 19th Aug 2008 03:40 in reply to "RE: Do we care? Really?"
leos Member since:
2005-09-21

We, however, do not live in such a world, and even experts can bork-up there systems. This is why backups are so essential. There are times, though, when replacing a messed-up drive or partition with an image is just plain overkill, especially in the *nixes, where with a little help and some reading, it is possible for even relative noobies to fix a lot of problems without even needing to reboot...IF they can find things.


If your problem is finding things, you probably don't know how to fix any significant problems

They have all been able to learn, and more or less to take care of their own machines. If they call for support, I can tell them to got to /home/apps, or /etc, or ..\Documents and Settings\... or whatever, and they will fix their own boxes. So, yes, I am speaking from real world experience.


So what's the problem? You're telling them where to go anyway. Whether you're saying etc or Documents and Settings is irrelevant. At least on the Linux filesystem you can backup your home directory and bring all your files and program settings with you. Good luck doing that on windows filesystem layout., without a dedicated backup app.

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RE[3]: Do we care? Really?
by jack_perry on Tue 19th Aug 2008 12:53 in reply to "RE[2]: Do we care? Really?"
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2005-07-06

If your problem is finding things, you probably don't know how to fix any significant problems

And maybe you'd like to learn. A system that is simpler and more intuitive would be a big help.

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RE[3]: Do we care? Really?
by Decius on Tue 19th Aug 2008 23:48 in reply to "RE[2]: Do we care? Really?"
Decius Member since:
2006-01-03

If your problem is finding things, you probably don't know how to fix any significant problems


Rather than respond to your specious reasoning as a personal attack I'll simply point out that you may have missed the point of my comment, and possibly the whole article. The problem lies in consistency of experience. When the system that is supposed to result in a consistent ability to find files across all platforms using that system becomes an impediment, it needs fixing. You may have noticed that I support and use multiple OSes. When I have to go looking for other likely places that a file may be, due to the FSH being layed out or used slightly differently in a different distribution, and then find that file in an unexpected place, that means that there are fundamental issues and inefficiencies with the system. Not everyone is on the same page, possibly because the system is no longer truly standardized, it leaves room for ambiguity. Ambiguity is not a good thing. All this makes supporting my clients a slower process than necessary, because I constantly am having to verify whether things are where they are supposed to be.

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