Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 20th Aug 2008 02:16 UTC
Windows Last week we reported on the Engineering 7 weblog, a weblog headed by Microsoft's Steven Sinofsky on which they promised to chronicle the development process of Windows 7, while allowing us normal folk to give feedback. They are keeping their promise, as the latest post by Sinofsky offers some interesting insights into the various development teams working on Windows 7.
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Lite Edition ...
by WorknMan on Wed 20th Aug 2008 04:02 UTC
WorknMan
Member since:
2005-11-13

I've seen a lot of comments on that blog from people who want just the core OS without all of the extra bloat and applications that they're never going to use. Basically what we need is a 'Lite Edition.' As each new version is released, I find myself spending more and more time just turning off the crap that MS has added over the years in order to try and idiot-proof the OS. Vista is especially bad, having throw in that fruity-looking glassy-ass GUI to appease 'Generation iPod', and you can bet that more Mac lameness like iLife will be headed our way too. Great for grandma to use, but most power users ain't going anywhere near that sh*t.

So we need a barebones version this time geared toward people who actually know what they're doing. Better clipboard tools, system wide spell checking (the one cool thing they haven't stolen from OSX yet), Firefox-style muultiple select in every application, etc etc. Make it a snap to slipstream all hotfixes and service packs into the original install disc. Oh, and make it possible to *create* an install disc out of a restore partition, since most OEMs are too cheap anymore to throw in a f**king setup CD/DVD with the new $1,500 computer you just bought.

Edited 2008-08-20 04:05 UTC

RE: Lite Edition ...
by ebasconp on Wed 20th Aug 2008 04:28 in reply to "Lite Edition ..."
ebasconp Member since:
2006-05-09

Maybe supporting and improving ReactOS will be the answer to such claims.

:)

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RE[2]: Lite Edition ...
by merkoth on Wed 20th Aug 2008 04:57 in reply to "RE: Lite Edition ..."
merkoth Member since:
2006-09-22

"Power users" might use vLite too...

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RE: Lite Edition ...
by OSGuy on Wed 20th Aug 2008 05:51 in reply to "Lite Edition ..."
OSGuy Member since:
2006-01-01

Although the Vista OS itself might not be the best Windows (as MS claimed), Vista's theme does look rather nice, there is no denial about it.

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by StaubSaugerNZ on Wed 20th Aug 2008 07:13 in reply to "RE: Lite Edition ..."
StaubSaugerNZ Member since:
2007-07-13

Although the Vista OS itself might not be the best Windows (as MS claimed), Vista's theme does look rather nice, there is no denial about it.


Actually, it is a matter of taste. I personally don't like the snot-coloured theme (and I know just as many people dislike Ubuntu orange).

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RE: Lite Edition ...
by Buck on Wed 20th Aug 2008 07:51 in reply to "Lite Edition ..."
Buck Member since:
2005-06-29

more Mac lameness like iLife

Yes, because real men use pirated Adobe Premiere and Audition.

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RE: Lite Edition ...
by Adam S on Wed 20th Aug 2008 14:25 in reply to "Lite Edition ..."
Adam S Member since:
2005-04-01

"Power users" my balls! I'd wager many folks much more knowledgeable than you have built plenty of their data into iLife quite successfully. Plenty of default Vista apps are perfectly usable for the average Joe, and I'd postulate that no matter what was bundled in Windows 7, people like you would complain. You can't be everyone's solution, and so-called "power users" will seek an alternative, but the average Joe won't, so they gear towards him.

What, pray tell, are acceptable apps for you "power users?" Is Photoshop a power user app? Because that's not bloated at all! Why, it loads in a scant 45 seconds on my dual core 3Ghz machine!

I'll give you that your second paragraph all sounds useful, but then, people that might use that stuff are not the ones comfortable paying $499 for an OS.

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RE[2]: Lite Edition ...
by WorknMan on Wed 20th Aug 2008 16:51 in reply to "RE: Lite Edition ..."
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

Plenty of default Vista apps are perfectly usable for the average Joe, and I'd postulate that no matter what was bundled in Windows 7, people like you would complain.


You're right, so why not offer a version that doesn't install anything by default, so that those of us who want to can start off with a clean, minimal system and build up from there?

I'd probably choose to install the calculator and the mixer, but that's about all ;)

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RE: Lite Edition ...
by modmans2ndcoming on Wed 20th Aug 2008 16:45 in reply to "Lite Edition ..."
modmans2ndcoming Member since:
2005-11-09

There is nothing wrong with teh UI. If you don't like the widgets, fine, but accelerating the UI through the 3d system on teh gfx card allows them to keep the UI usable when one of your application is barfing or has a lot to think about.

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