Linked by Adam S on Thu 21st Aug 2008 13:13 UTC
Windows Steven Sinofsky, who oversees Windows 7 development, has really committed to keeping us in the loop on the new Engineering Windows 7 blog. In today's post, "Measuring the Scale of a Release," he discusses whether or not Windows 7 will be a "major" or "minor" release. It's a pretty good piece that really makes some good points. Read on for our perspective.
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RE[2]: Hello Adam, earth to Adam
by MollyC on Thu 21st Aug 2008 18:13 UTC in reply to "RE: Hello Adam, earth to Adam"
MollyC
Member since:
2006-07-04

"Seriously Vista has backup solution that works
I'm starting to wonder if you've ever used Vista. Are you calling that ridiculous joke of a backup program a "solution?" Puh-lease. "

What's wrong with it, exactly? It does incremantal backups, uses shadow-copy under the covers, and supports automatic backups that can be scheduled a frequently as the user wants. What's the problem?

While I'm at it, you suggest bundling Outlook (or something as powerful) rather than Winows Mail (which you mistakenly referred to "Windows Live Mail", which is a downloadable desktop client for hotmail and other Live services). There are two problems with this:

1. If Microsoft were to do that, the EU would be levelling a two billion dollar fine the very next day.

2. It makes no sense for Microsoft to do this because Outlook is, as you say, "a for charge add-on that is a huge hit". If it's a huge hit that people are willing to pay for, why give it away for free?

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Adam S Member since:
2005-04-01

If it's a huge hit that people are willing to pay for, why give it away for free?

Ah... gotta love the Microsoft mentality. Why put something of value into a product when we can gouge our customers for more dollars?

How about because 33% of Vista sales are immediately downgraded to XP? How about because Macs are now the #1 selling laptop in the USA? How about because when people sink their dollars into something as mundane as an OS, they expect it to be truly useful, not come with a shoddy second rate program that they will then have to pay to upgrade to the proper program?

Stop drinking the Kool-Aid.

As for the backup, why can I only select broad categories for backup? Does it backup system files? And can I restore my entire PC from it? Who knows? Time Machine works like this:

* plug in external drive
* Do you want to use for Time Machine? Yes.
* Backup

Windows works like this.

* Plug in external drive
* "No, I don't want to open the volume or execute any files"
* Go to Start > Programs > Windows Backup... wait, that's not there
* Go to Start > Programs > Accessories, wait... not there
* Go to Start > Programs > Administrative Tools, wait... not there
* Go to Control Panel
* Click on Backup and Restore Center
* Choose Backup Files (or choose Backup Computer, which creates an image)
* Check things I want to backup
* Set schedule, which can be run once a day at most

Remind me why this is better? Do you know ANYONE AT ALL who uses this as their primary backup method?

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MollyC Member since:
2006-07-04

I see you didn't bother to respond to the antitrust issues that would arise were Microsoft to bundle Outlook. How about actually adressing the issues I raised before starting with the insults?

BTW, you accuse Microsoft of having a mentality of price-gouging while praising Apple, who has a history of charging people for the ability to watch videos in full screen mode??? Which is more petty?

(Regarding your claim that 33% of Vista sals are downgraded to XP, no, it's 35% of "Business" computers that are supposedly downgraded to XP.
http://weblog.infoworld.com/sentinel/archives/2008/08/bursting_the_...

This is not a shock since many business wipe whatever is on the drive and install a standard setup provided by the IT dept. I'm surprised that the number was that low.)


Second, I never said Vista's backup functionality was "better" than Time Machine, I just asked you what you thought was wrong with it. Despite your problems with the UI or whatever, many people are using it for backup.

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Karitku Member since:
2006-01-12

In Vista you simply push the blue orb(aka start menu), write backup and tadaa 2 choices which both open what you needed. But I give credit for you since Vista should ask "Do you want to use this as backup" when you plug external HDD.

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Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

I know you're getting modded down, but you're so right.

People should try actually owning a Mac before making such comments about them.

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