Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 21st Aug 2008 16:16 UTC, submitted by jcornuz
Multimedia, AV Graphics and photography have been Apple's chasse gardee for years but for quite some time, MS Windows is on par with the Mac and the system of choice for photographers boils down to personal preferences more than anything else. But what about Linux? "My goal with this entry is to brush a big picture of where Linux stands as far as photography is concerned," Joel Cornuz explains, "What are the achievements, where improvements are needed and being worked on, and which pieces are still missing."
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RE: It's a given
by abraxas on Fri 22nd Aug 2008 17:23 UTC in reply to "It's a given"
abraxas
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2005-07-07

Linux will be playing catch up till the end of time.. that's what it does.. The concept of linux becoming usable for entry level professional photographers is a good one.. I don't think adobe is going to port Photoshop or Illustrator...

Just ante up and buy a damn mac.. You waste so much less time doing things when there is logical workflow..


If everyone thought like you did we wouldn't have Linux or Firefox or a lot of other programs because similar products already existed. Besides there are a lot of us who are hobbyists or prosumers and don't want to buy another computer and more software for our hobby. We want to be able to edit and convert our photos in Linux. It is completely possible in Linux at this time although it isn't nearly as polished as Adobe or Apple products. This will change though and when it does you'll be eating your words.

btw.. the gimp is crap. I can't say it enough times...
crap crap crap. also. have fun trying to get your wacom tablet working properly in linux.


GIMP isn't crap unless you are a Photoshop fanboy. The only real downside to using GIMP is that it only supports 8-bit. That's not really a big deal when you shoot in RAW and use a RAW conversion program. You are usually converting to JPG anyway. You can always use Cinepaint if you need 16-bit although I admit it is limited in capability compared to the GIMP. Why exactly do you think GIMP is crap or are you just jumping on the bandwagon?

As far as the tablet is concerned it isn't really necessary for photographers although I understand that some use them. As far as I know Wacom tablets are supported under Linux anyway.

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RE[2]: It's a given
by melkor on Sat 23rd Aug 2008 09:30 in reply to "RE: It's a given"
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2006-12-16

Huh? 8 bit isn't an issue. Get out in the real world - 14 bit RAW files are becoming de rigeur now, the extra bits do help with the dynamic range.

And most Pros will convert RAW to either PSD or TIFF (usually 16 bit tiffs, rather than 8 bit btw). When you're working with images and selling them for a living, maximum quality is what you're after.

You haven't even mentioned colour spaces, and calibration tools for the Linux desktop. Both are exceptionally poorly supported on Linux. Both are critical to a pro workflow for maximum image quality.

Dave

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RE[3]: It's a given
by abraxas on Sun 24th Aug 2008 21:23 in reply to "RE[2]: It's a given"
abraxas Member since:
2005-07-07

And most Pros will convert RAW to either PSD or TIFF (usually 16 bit tiffs, rather than 8 bit btw). When you're working with images and selling them for a living, maximum quality is what you're after.

You haven't even mentioned colour spaces, and calibration tools for the Linux desktop. Both are exceptionally poorly supported on Linux. Both are critical to a pro workflow for maximum image quality.


Only in fantasy land do things work like that. A lot of of photographers don't even know what a TIFF is or what colorspace and color gamut is. The majority of photos printed are worked over by the printer before they are printed. Your argument is a common one but it just doesn't reflect what happens in reality on a daily basis. There are rare photographers that handle their digital prints from end to end but they are few and far between.

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RE[2]: It's a given
by evangs on Sat 23rd Aug 2008 13:25 in reply to "RE: It's a given"
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2005-07-07


GIMP isn't crap unless you are a Photoshop fanboy. The only real downside to using GIMP is that it only supports 8-bit. That's not really a big deal when you shoot in RAW and use a RAW conversion program. You are usually converting to JPG anyway.


Sorry, who the hell works with a lossless format? Most photographers work with 16 bit TIFF files. You only export to JPEG if you're publishing on the web, and even then this is done at the final stage of your workflow.

Working with JPEG = goodbye dynamic range = hello flat photos. Linux is far from a professional photographer's platform of choice. Hell, it even struggles to make it as the hobbyist DSLR platform of choice.

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RE[3]: It's a given
by dagw on Sun 24th Aug 2008 12:13 in reply to "RE[2]: It's a given"
dagw Member since:
2005-07-06

Working with JPEG = goodbye dynamic range = hello flat photos.

Only if you don't know what you're doing. I'm not saying that working in jpg is preferable in any way, but to suggest that jpg=flat photos without dynamic range says more about your ability to correctly expose a photo and work with digital images than it does about the jpg format.

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