Linked by Adam S on Thu 21st Aug 2008 13:13 UTC
Windows Steven Sinofsky, who oversees Windows 7 development, has really committed to keeping us in the loop on the new Engineering Windows 7 blog. In today's post, "Measuring the Scale of a Release," he discusses whether or not Windows 7 will be a "major" or "minor" release. It's a pretty good piece that really makes some good points. Read on for our perspective.
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RE[4]: Comment by Hakime
by dagw on Fri 22nd Aug 2008 19:04 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Hakime"
dagw
Member since:
2005-07-06

It's pretty stupid to pay loads of cash for something that isn't really of higher quality though.

That entirely depends. Even if two items are more or less of the same basic quality, one may be worth money to a person for all kinds of intangible reasons. A lot of people care about aesthetics and design for example and are willing to pay for things to look nice while it's being functional. Then there are things like clever industrial and usability design that makes the item more easy/fun/effective to use, many people happily pay extra for that. There are even more abstract concepts like certain items simply make the owner happy and content for reasons he cannot quite articulate. Hard to explain, but for many worth paying for.

Of course trying to explain any of these abstracts to a person with purely practical and utilitarian concerns is more or less impossible. So suffice to say if you don't get it you don't get it, but that doesn't make the other person stupid, they just value things differently from you.

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RE[5]: Comment by Hakime
by Quag7 on Fri 22nd Aug 2008 21:16 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Hakime"
Quag7 Member since:
2005-07-28

PROPOSAL TO OSNEWS ADMINS:

Can we have a MTBMPR (Mean Time Between Mac Pricing Row) stat on the front page? It would be interesting to track how many days we can go between those debates.

Other proposals:

MTBLF (Mean Time Between License Furores) - the amount of time between a discussion of what "free" means, BSD vs GPL style

MTBORMS (Mean Time Between Opinions on Richard Stallman) - self explanatory

MTBUBCBOT (Mean Time Between Ubuntu Bashing Comments By Old Timers)

MTBBGPP (Mean Time Between Bad Gentoo Politics Posts)

MTBFUDA (Mean Time Between FUD accusations)

MTBLIAACNDD (Mean Time Between Linux Is All About Choice Not Dilution Discussions)

MTBILRFTDA (Mean Time Between Is Linux Ready For The Desktop Articles)

I would also like to propose support for system-wide XML-style entity declarations to save space on the OSNews.com hard drives. For example:

&yougetwhatyoupayforwithamac; and &macsareforrichkids;

&rmsisaneccentricvisionary; and &rmsisagnuzealotonewindowsreleasefromsarinsubwaybombing;

&gplfreeasinfreedomsuckitfreebsdfreedomtohordedouchebags; &gpliscommunistswhathatecapitalism;

And so forth. This way, these debates could be had much quicker and it's not as if the text is anything but static anyway.

Just a...modest...proposal.

Edited 2008-08-22 21:19 UTC

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RE[6]: Comment by Hakime
by google_ninja on Fri 22nd Aug 2008 22:59 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by Hakime"
google_ninja Member since:
2006-02-05

voted you up for that.

I would say signal to noise is already at least as bad as slashdot or digg. The reason I come to this site at all any more is down to one mac guy, 3 linux guys, and one microsoft gal, which is pretty sad cause it used to be a hell of alot better then this.

Im about ready to call it quits, and am actively looking for somewhere with people with more intelligent things to say then a rehash of one of those seven things.

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RE[6]: Comment by Hakime
by dagw on Sat 23rd Aug 2008 13:42 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by Hakime"
dagw Member since:
2005-07-06

Except I wasn't talking about Apple or Macs. I was talking about the general problem of perceived value and the futility of pricing items purely on their practical merits. Sure it applies to computers, but only in as much as it applies to everything one can acquire for a price where there are two or more interchangeable choices.

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