Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 23rd Aug 2008 15:37 UTC
Editorial Earlier this week, we ran a story on GoboLinux, and the distribution's effort to replace the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard with a more pleasant, human-readable, and logical design. A lot of people liked the idea of modernising/replacing the FHS, but just as many people were against doing so. Valid arguments were presented both ways, but in this article, I would like to focus on a common sentiment that came forward in that discussion: normal users shouldn't see the FHS, and advanced users are smart enough to figure out how the FHS works.
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RE[2]: Comment by Luminair
by Luminair on Sun 24th Aug 2008 22:32 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by Luminair"
Luminair
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2007-03-30

Man, OSX and Windows already do some of this better than Linux, so if you think it is impossible you are way off.

Software is complex, no kidding. The whole point here is to make it more understandable to humans. Not an impossible task.

You can't fix something without understanding it, no kidding. The whole point here is to make it more understandable to humans so more of them can fix it. Not an impossible task.

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RE[3]: Comment by Luminair
by FooBarWidget on Sun 24th Aug 2008 23:36 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Luminair"
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2005-11-11

Man, OSX and Windows already do some of this better than Linux


If you're referring to scandisk and defrag tools, that's to fixing software as throwing a paper airplane is to being a real pilot. What happens if there's a bug in the filesystem driver? Or a bug in the virtual memory system? How do you ever expect a normal person to fix that?

Software is complex, no kidding. The whole point here is to make it more understandable to humans. Not an impossible task.


Making software usable by humans doesn't mean that everybody can *fix* problems in it. If there's a problem, then the cause can be *anything*. How do you ever want a non-programmer to fix things like that?

You can't fix something without understanding it, no kidding. The whole point here is to make it more understandable to humans so more of them can fix it. Not an impossible task.


Yeah, and understanding how software works happens to be equal to learning programming. And now you're back at square 1.

Edited 2008-08-24 23:38 UTC

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RE[4]: Comment by Luminair
by Luminair on Sun 24th Aug 2008 23:42 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Luminair"
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2007-03-30

> What happens if there's a bug in the filesystem driver?

We aren't talking about fixing driver bugs. Software is so complex that you're losing view of the difference between things we're talking about and things we aren't talking about. We are talking about the design of the file system and maintainence relating to file locations.

So for instance, if your settings break you should be able to just copy them from /settings on your backup disk to /settings on your system disk. We're not talking about fixing bugs in code.

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RE[3]: Comment by Luminair
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 25th Aug 2008 12:08 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Luminair"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Software is complex, no kidding. The whole point here is to make it more understandable to humans. Not an impossible task.

You can't fix something without understanding it, no kidding. The whole point here is to make it more understandable to humans so more of them can fix it. Not an impossible task.


+1 for you, you get the gist. Others here get lost in debates about details, while all I was trying to say was: we made the front-end rather useable (not in all cases, but hey) - the next big step is to make the back-end useable and logical.

That being said, I am an OCD patient (and i'm not just saying that to be cool - I've actually been diagnosed as such), so my inclination towards order, cleanliness, and structure might not be exactly... Healthy.

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