Linked by Adam S on Tue 26th Aug 2008 14:55 UTC
Windows What makes this Vista article any different? The title provides a clue: it's as much about providing practical working solutions to resolve some of the commonly-quoted Vista annoyances as anything else. That in itself should give all Vista users a reason to read it. However it doesn't matter whether you use Vista or not, because this article does something that most of the others don't: it takes an objective and up-to-date look at the current state of Vista, with a range of facts, clear examples and informed opinions aimed squarely at debunking a lot of the myths and FUD we've been gagging on for the past year. So for those of you still considering whether to make the switch from XP, for those of you who want to abandon Vista and go back to XP, for those of you who used Vista a while ago and who are wondering whether it's worth using again now - this article puts things in perspective with the latest facts.
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mmmh
by Anacardo on Tue 26th Aug 2008 16:19 UTC
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I finished reading the article and yet, I'm still not convinced of the "objective point of view" of the writing. For starters, an article named "vista annoyances resolved" has 3 pages of rebuttal of FUD and "lies"... since when these can be considered Vista annoyances? Is this an article covering how to cope with real vista annoyances, or an article trying to convince you that you're imagining things? that you're a victim of bad advertising? The more I went on, the more I came with things I definitely don't agree with: "Windows XP was subject to the exact same types of criticisms ... many of them totally baseless or sensationalist as we now know." But many of them were absolutely true and later became "shortcomings" that we ended up accepting because we simply didn't have another choice. I don't want to eat more garbage simply because it's the "next big thing" anymore. Vista has the same shortcomings of XP plus more, especially from an interface and usability point of view. And again, maybe we differ a lot in the way we use our computers as the author found windows Xp Sp1 to be completely up to his expectations, while I found running heavy applications on the same system to be a hit & miss till Sp2 (I don't want to sound sarcastic, but my old Amiga 4000 could do the same things he's doing on the video, I have a vaguely different idea of "heavy work")
I don't know, maybe it's just me, but the more I use Vista, the more it seems to me as a collection of interesting technologies glued together somehow rather than a real product. I somewhat believe that Windows XP begun to tell us that the OS was more important than the software we would eventually run on top of it, and Vista went down the same damned road again. Possibly too much for me. From this point of view I tend to agree with those that predict the ending of Operating Systems as consumer products and the rise of some OS indifference where people use/buy the application (web application?) they want and forget about the OS behind it.

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RE: mmmh
by modmans2ndcoming on Tue 26th Aug 2008 21:32 in reply to "mmmh"
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2005-11-09

uhh...

part of being objective is debunking unfair and outdated criticism.

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RE: mmmh
by tomcat on Wed 27th Aug 2008 01:24 in reply to "mmmh"
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2006-01-06

I finished reading the article and yet, I'm still not convinced of the "objective point of view" of the writing. For starters, an article named "vista annoyances resolved" has 3 pages of rebuttal of FUD and "lies"... since when these can be considered Vista annoyances?


I use Vista on a daily basis, and I have to say that it IS annoying to read crap about Vista that doesn't have any basis in reality.

Is this an article covering how to cope with real vista annoyances, or an article trying to convince you that you're imagining things? that you're a victim of bad advertising?


The Mojave experiment proves, in a lot of ways, that memes about Vista are largely bullshit. If you ARE imagining flaws that don't exist, it's reasonable to point out the facts, in my opinion.

The more I went on, the more I came with things I definitely don't agree with: "Windows XP was subject to the exact same types of criticisms ... many of them totally baseless or sensationalist as we now know."


I remember reading the press articles at the time. The same sentiments were being expressed. You may not remember them, but they were indeed said.

But many of them were absolutely true and later became "shortcomings" that we ended up accepting because we simply didn't have another choice. I don't want to eat more garbage simply because it's the "next big thing" anymore.


You should never buy technology based on buzz alone. Buy it because it's USEFUL and RELEVANT.

Vista has the same shortcomings of XP plus more, especially from an interface and usability point of view.


Example?

And again, maybe we differ a lot in the way we use our computers as the author found windows Xp Sp1 to be completely up to his expectations, while I found running heavy applications on the same system to be a hit & miss till Sp2


I think that most people agree that Microsoft finally got XP right around SP2.

I don't know, maybe it's just me, but the more I use Vista, the more it seems to me as a collection of interesting technologies glued together somehow rather than a real product.


I'm not sure how that differs from previous versions of Windows?

I somewhat believe that Windows XP begun to tell us that the OS was more important than the software we would eventually run on top of it, and Vista went down the same damned road again. Possibly too much for me.


How so?

From this point of view I tend to agree with those that predict the ending of Operating Systems as consumer products and the rise of some OS indifference where people use/buy the application (web application?) they want and forget about the OS behind it.


OSes have NEVER been consumer products on their own, and we shouldn't treat them that way. They're ALWAYS purchased as part of a bundled hardware/software package. Nobody buys Windows at retail. Microsoft reportedly sells less than 1% of its licenses that way. Which is essentially nobody.

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