The IE team at Microsoft has released the 2nd beta Internet Explorer 8. Contrary to the first beta, which was aimed at developers, this one one is aimed at normal people like you and me. The list of new features and changes is decent, all focused around three themes (marketing alert): "We focused our work around three themes: everyday browsing (the things that real people do all the time), safety (the term most people use for what we've called 'trustworthy' in previous posts), and the platform (the focus of Beta 1, how developers around the world will build the next billion web pages and the next waves of great services)." Go get it.
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Member since:2008-08-27
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No, it does not look the same - watch closely the nose and you'll see that it is off by 1px or so. If you switch the tabs quickly (just hold CTRL+TAB) you should be able to see it clearly, with both Firefox and Safari.
And the issue is well known (you think I was the one that spotted it first? Not really 
Edited 2008-08-27 23:18 UTC
Member since:2007-02-17
So, by how many pixels is IE 8 off for each of the tests linked by this page:
http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Test_Suite_Overview
I think you might find that each and every one of this set of tests is an EPIC FAIL for IE.
100% USELESS.
... Just thought I'd try to introduce a bit of objectivity and balance into this discussion concerning a possible 1 pixel offest, here.
Then of course there is acid3 ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_3#Desktop_browsers
Yet more EPIC FAILURE for IE.
Funny.
Edited 2008-08-27 23:37 UTC
Member since:2005-11-10
How does that make FF or Safaric pass Acid2? It does not.
By the way, not many developers/designers really care about SVG today. In the future, we may, but today - not really.
On the other hand, Acid 2 matters today more than ever.
Quit trolling and let's put some pressure on Mozilla and Apple to fix their browsers so that we all can enjoy at least Acid 2 being supported by all major players. They should simply fix the problem, the same way MS is fixing IE. Don't you think that would be better?
Member since:2005-07-24
Forget Acid 2. How about Acid 3? If the browser is not Acid 2 compliant, the page may not look quite right. Big deal. If it is not Acid 3 compliant, the page may not *work*. Big difference. You know... click on a button or a link and nothing happens?
The good news on the Acid 2 front, though, looks like the fact that the latest versions of the two most used browsers either pass it or come so close to passing that the difference hardly matters. The nose is, after all, only 1 vertical pixel off.
Perhaps someone could post an IE8 beta 2 Acid 3 result? The compliance of beta 1 was horrid. I think it got 8 out of 100 or something.
Member since:2007-02-17
Acid3 = just 18 out of 100 for IE 8 beta 1.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_3#Desktop_browsers
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If you have to compare betas, then at least take all of them into account. E. g. Safari 4 Beta - It passes Acid3. So we now have a beta of IE which is irrelevant (and dog slow) for future tasks before it is even released. Applause MS!
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So we now have 2 browsers (of major 4) that can actually fully pass Acid 2 test: IE8 beta 2 and Opera 9.5x.
Safari 3.1.x and Firefox 3.0.x both fail ("nose" is still off by a few pixels compared to the reference rendering). Funny.
See it here:
http://www.webstandards.org/files/acid2/test.html
Open both links ("Take The Acid2 Test" and "the reference rendering") in 2 tabs and then switch quickly - watch the nose: FF and Safari fail.
Edited 2008-08-27 22:13 UTC