Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 27th Aug 2008 21:26 UTC, submitted by gonzo
Internet Explorer The IE team at Microsoft has released the 2nd beta Internet Explorer 8. Contrary to the first beta, which was aimed at developers, this one one is aimed at normal people like you and me. The list of new features and changes is decent, all focused around three themes (marketing alert): "We focused our work around three themes: everyday browsing (the things that real people do all the time), safety (the term most people use for what we've called 'trustworthy' in previous posts), and the platform (the focus of Beta 1, how developers around the world will build the next billion web pages and the next waves of great services)." Go get it.
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RE[2]: Acid2?
by gonzo on Wed 27th Aug 2008 23:41 UTC in reply to "RE: Acid2?"
gonzo
Member since:
2005-11-10

How does that make FF or Safaric pass Acid2? It does not.

By the way, not many developers/designers really care about SVG today. In the future, we may, but today - not really.

On the other hand, Acid 2 matters today more than ever.


Quit trolling and let's put some pressure on Mozilla and Apple to fix their browsers so that we all can enjoy at least Acid 2 being supported by all major players. They should simply fix the problem, the same way MS is fixing IE. Don't you think that would be better?

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RE[3]: Acid2?
by lemur2 on Wed 27th Aug 2008 23:45 in reply to "RE[2]: Acid2?"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

How does that make FF or Safaric pass Acid2? It does not. By the way, not many developers/designers really care about SVG today. In the future, we may, but today - not really.


Web designers don't care about major, approved web standards functionality but they do care about 1 vertical pixel?

ORLY?

On what planet is this?

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RE[4]: Acid2?
by gonzo on Wed 27th Aug 2008 23:52 in reply to "RE[3]: Acid2?"
gonzo Member since:
2005-11-10

Oh yeah, they do care about that 1 vertical pixel. They care about it very much. It is exactly something like "it is off by 1px @!@%@$!" that is making them go crazy.

Not with IE8b2 or Opera though ;)

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RE[4]: Acid2?
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 27th Aug 2008 23:52 in reply to "RE[3]: Acid2?"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

On what planet is this?


The planet where people with a life couldn't give a single frak about Acidtwothreetestsbogusnonsensehocuspocus.

Does it render teh google maps? Facebook? Redtube.com?

Good, means it passed the only test that matters: the real world test.

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RE[4]: Acid2?
by sorpigal on Thu 28th Aug 2008 17:53 in reply to "RE[3]: Acid2?"
sorpigal Member since:
2005-11-02

Web designers care a *lot* about "just one pixel". It's 'little' bugs like that which drive even half-assed web developers like me crazy. What if "sometimes" when you ran a command it did almost what you asked, but not quite. Do you accept "occasionally off by one" from a calculator? I wouldn't.

It's critically important--especially on the vertical, where fixing it is harder--that things be sized precisely the way the code says it will and precisely the same way between browsers.

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RE[3]: Acid2?
by Hakime on Thu 28th Aug 2008 02:35 in reply to "RE[2]: Acid2?"
Hakime Member since:
2005-11-16

"Safari 3.1.x and Firefox 3.0.x both fail ("nose" is still off by a few pixels compared to the reference rendering). Funny. "

"Quit trolling and let's put some pressure on Mozilla and Apple to fix their browsers so that we all can enjoy at least Acid 2 being supported by all major players. They should simply fix the problem, the same way MS is fixing IE. Don't you think that would be better?"

Wait, i can't get it. On my machine, Safari 3.1.2 passes the Acid2 perfectly, the rendered face looks exactly the same as the reference rendering, exactly the same.

Safari has passed the Acid2 test for a while now (Firefox too i presume, but i did not try), i can't believe that you come up here proud like a real microsoft fan boy telling us that IE passes the test, but not Safari (or Firefox), when in fact Safari has been passing successfully this test for three years.... Yes three years before IE, do you realize that?

http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/hyatt/archives/2005_04.html

I am also running Safari 4 beta on my laptop, yes of course it succeeds in Acid2, but it also get a full 100/100 in Acid3.

So it seems that you are either completely confusing things or you are trolling.....

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