Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 27th Aug 2008 21:26 UTC, submitted by gonzo
Internet Explorer The IE team at Microsoft has released the 2nd beta Internet Explorer 8. Contrary to the first beta, which was aimed at developers, this one one is aimed at normal people like you and me. The list of new features and changes is decent, all focused around three themes (marketing alert): "We focused our work around three themes: everyday browsing (the things that real people do all the time), safety (the term most people use for what we've called 'trustworthy' in previous posts), and the platform (the focus of Beta 1, how developers around the world will build the next billion web pages and the next waves of great services)." Go get it.
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RE[2]: Acid2?
by gonzo on Wed 27th Aug 2008 23:44 UTC in reply to "RE: Acid2?"
gonzo
Member since:
2005-11-10

Forget Acid 2?

In order to talk about Acid 3, don't you think it would be good to first pass Acid 2?

Oh, I see. FF and Safari still can't fully pass Acid 2, so it is not important now. Yeah, right..

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RE[3]: Acid2?
by smitty on Thu 28th Aug 2008 02:31 in reply to "RE[2]: Acid2?"
smitty Member since:
2005-10-13

Gonzo, quit trolling. Is the reference image 1 pixel different than FF and Safari renderings? Yes, it is. But the creator of the Acid2 test himself has said that these browsers pass, because both versions are valid.

The nose is supposed to rest on a half-pixel, and the standards do not define whether it should be rounded up or down. Two browsers round the .5 up to 1, and the other two round it down to 0. Neither is more correct than the other.

It does kind of suck that the standards don't define this behavior, but you can't just randomly pick one side and then say the other is wrong.

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RE[4]: Acid2?
by sbergman27 on Thu 28th Aug 2008 03:17 in reply to "RE[3]: Acid2?"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

But the creator of the Acid2 test himself has said that these browsers pass, because both versions are valid.

Indeed. Very interesting. He's modifying the test not to rely upon sub-pixel rendering which was never his intent in the first place.

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RE[3]: Acid2?
by sbergman27 on Thu 28th Aug 2008 02:56 in reply to "RE[2]: Acid2?"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

In order to talk about Acid 3, don't you think it would be good to first pass Acid 2?

Acid 2 and Acid 3 test different things:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_3

Acid 3 tests javascript compatibility.

Oh, I see. FF and Safari still can't fully pass Acid 2, so it is not important now. Yeah, right..

I suspect that you are operating under the misconception that I am a Firefox fanboy. This is not the case. I like FF very much. But I'm not married to it. I am very interested in WebKit, as well, which has unique advantages of its own.

(I'm beginning to wonder if you are not an IE fanboy, though, just based upon your tone in this thread.)

The reason that I see Acid 3 as being more important is as I stated earlier. Poor javascript support is more likely to result in truly *broken* pages than poor CSS support. We already see it. And as AJAX-style applications become more popular, that is only going to get worse unless we see better compliance out of Microsoft.

Edited 2008-08-28 02:58 UTC

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