Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 1st Sep 2008 08:55 UTC, submitted by Dan Warne
Windows A common topic of discussion in the Windows world - in fact, in any operating system - is boot performance. Many systems take a long time to reach a usable desktop from the moment the power switch is pressed, and this can be quite annoying if it takes too long. In a post on the Engineering 7 blog, Michael Fortin, lead engineer of Microsoft's Fundamentals/Core Operating System Group, explains what Microsoft is doing to make Windows 7 boot faster.
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RE: Comment by Kroc
by el3ktro on Mon 1st Sep 2008 09:39 UTC in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
el3ktro
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2006-01-10

If you knew HOW MUCH I AGREE WITH YOU!! Why is it that the first thing you have to do with a Windows laptop is to completely wipe the harddisk and install a plain Windows from scratch, while when you buy a new MacBook or iMac, you just boot it and start to USE it right away?

Edited 2008-09-01 09:39 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by Kroc
by modmans2ndcoming on Mon 1st Sep 2008 22:42 in reply to "RE: Comment by Kroc"
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2005-11-09

Why? because of all the poorly coded crap the OEMs throw on the laptops.

Apple is the only OEM for Macs and they also develop the OS, no need to make poorly coded add on crap.

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RE[2]: Comment by Kroc
by pixel8r on Tue 2nd Sep 2008 03:00 in reply to "RE: Comment by Kroc"
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2007-08-11

If you knew HOW MUCH I AGREE WITH YOU!! Why is it that the first thing you have to do with a Windows laptop is to completely wipe the harddisk and install a plain Windows from scratch, while when you buy a new MacBook or iMac, you just boot it and start to USE it right away?


either you've never bought a "windows" laptop, or you are referring to the amount of crap that gets bundled with "windows" laptops...

in the second case its because you buy a "windows" laptop from a laptop manufacturer who makes money from the stuff they supply ON TOP OF windows (but not from the OS itself)...

and when you buy an apple laptop you are actually buying from the OS maker so they already are making a profit on the OS and the hardware so no need to add other crap.

Have a think about it. Apple are in control of the entire process, but on the windows side there are elements from different companies so there will obviously be differences.

Microsoft dont sell laptops.

Edited 2008-09-02 03:02 UTC

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RE[3]: Comment by Kroc
by apoclypse on Tue 2nd Sep 2008 03:47 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Kroc"
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2007-02-17

They do add other crap but gasp its stuff that people actually find useful (iLife). They have trial software installed like some of the Omni stuff and some of their own software like aperture. What they don't do is have the machine boot up with five different apps asking you to pay attention to them or have the ever bloated Roxio start a service to burn disc (why the hell do I need a sytem tray icon to burn cd/dvds). They don't have symmantec bothering you with both a system tray icon and a pop-up screaming at you to update. Every app they do install in OSX can be easily removed from your machine and there is nothing starting up on your machine.

I understand what you are saying but OEMs need to get their act together and MS isn't helping any. Though if windows were free to OEMs they would still put crap on it and pocket the money they get from the crapware, if that isn't what they are already doing.

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RE[3]: Comment by Kroc
by el3ktro on Tue 2nd Sep 2008 06:18 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Kroc"
el3ktro Member since:
2006-01-10

Have a think about it. Apple are in control of the entire process, but on the windows side there are elements from different companies so there will obviously be differences.


That's perfectly true, but honestly I don't care much WHY it is this way. It IS this way, and it sucks. I work at IT, so yes I bought a lot of Windows laptops. I just hate that I need to custom reinstall every Windows laptop I buy, while all the Macs I buy just work out of the box and just need a little configuration for our network environment. This truly sucks and is just one more reason for me to prefer Macs over PCs.

Edited 2008-09-02 06:18 UTC

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