Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 1st Sep 2008 08:55 UTC, submitted by Dan Warne
Windows A common topic of discussion in the Windows world - in fact, in any operating system - is boot performance. Many systems take a long time to reach a usable desktop from the moment the power switch is pressed, and this can be quite annoying if it takes too long. In a post on the Engineering 7 blog, Michael Fortin, lead engineer of Microsoft's Fundamentals/Core Operating System Group, explains what Microsoft is doing to make Windows 7 boot faster.
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RE[2]: faster boot - why?
by l3v1 on Mon 1st Sep 2008 11:05 UTC in reply to "RE: faster boot - why?"
l3v1
Member since:
2005-07-06

Also, when you just want to quickly start your computer to lok for something


So what ? One of my machines - which also serves as a multimedia pc - has Windows on it, is always shut down into hibernation, and it "boots" up below 20 seconds. I don't need faster than that, better get those people working on features that matter.

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RE[3]: faster boot - why?
by el3ktro on Mon 1st Sep 2008 11:27 in reply to "RE[2]: faster boot - why?"
el3ktro Member since:
2006-01-10

Ha, it's funny that my Mac boots almost in the time where Windows wakes up from hibernation ...

You're right, hibernation is pretty fast to boot up, but it's not always an alternative. There are scenarios where you have to REALLY shut down your computer, or reboot, for example when you installed new software. It's just awkward when you have to wait minutes for a reboot.

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RE[4]: faster boot - why?
by pxa270 on Mon 1st Sep 2008 12:41 in reply to "RE[3]: faster boot - why?"
pxa270 Member since:
2006-01-08

As long as we're trading annecdotes, my ThinkPad resumes from hibernation in about the time that my MacBook is still displaying that grey Apple logo.

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RE[4]: faster boot - why?
by gustl on Sat 6th Sep 2008 18:54 in reply to "RE[3]: faster boot - why?"
gustl Member since:
2006-01-19

You have to reboot your computer when you have installed new software?

I have to do that only when some really basic system component like kernel or glibc is updated, but not for normal software.

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RE[3]: faster boot - why?
by stooovie on Mon 1st Sep 2008 12:55 in reply to "RE[2]: faster boot - why?"
stooovie Member since:
2006-01-25

exactly my point

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RE[3]: faster boot - why?
by flanque on Mon 1st Sep 2008 21:39 in reply to "RE[2]: faster boot - why?"
flanque Member since:
2005-12-15

Everything should be faster and more streamlined. If there's one thing that irritates me about computers it's sitting there waiting for the PC to boot when I just want to look up something quick.

It's a mental thing I know, but the PC seems to boot slower when you have less time to wait.

My hope is one day PCs can get all the hardware initialisation done (the bit before the OS) as quick as consoles do. I'd settle for a long initial scan which is saved each boot up can be excused from 10 seconds of checks. Sure it'd be my responsibility to run another scan if my hardware changes, but that happens far less often that does booting my PC.

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RE[3]: faster boot - why?
by stestagg on Mon 1st Sep 2008 21:55 in reply to "RE[2]: faster boot - why?"
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2006-06-03

Well, in my case, when I hibernate or sleep my computer, every system fan, including the GPU fan remains on constantly. I don't care who'se fault this is, only that, as a result, I have to shut down and start up my computer every day.

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RE[4]: faster boot - why?
by null_pointer_us on Wed 3rd Sep 2008 01:45 in reply to "RE[3]: faster boot - why?"
null_pointer_us Member since:
2005-08-19

What you said about the fans staying on during sleep would indicate the sleep mode being used is S1, not S3. Checking the BIOS may yield an option for you. Unfortunately, some BIOS's do not provide such an option. There's also the frustrating possibility that some components in your PC aren't compatible with S3 sleep. I deeply dislike it when that happens...

The fancy new "green" features on hardware (i.e. hybrid SLI) is all well and good, but I'd rather hardware manufacturers cracked down on the driver teams to make the drivers compatible with existing stuff like sleep/hibernate. There's so much wasted potential in energy savings (not to mention energy bills, which will change consumer minds quickly). Many PCs are kept always-on simply because sleep modes have so many compatiblity problems.

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