Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 4th Sep 2008 21:33 UTC
Windows A few weeks ago, I reviewed the Acer Aspire One notebook, the variant which came with an Acer-modified version of Linpus Linux. This version was locked-down and difficult to modify, so not too long after I installed Ubuntu, and was reasonably pleased - despite the amount of tweaking it took to get it working. A few days ago, however, I realised Linux wouldn't be ideal for me on my netbook. Due to pragmatic reasons, I'm now running Windows XP.
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RE[2]: Comment by merkoth
by UltraZelda64 on Fri 5th Sep 2008 05:35 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by merkoth"
UltraZelda64
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2006-12-05

I love how people always mention AV software. Yeah, I have some installed, but it is NOT running in the background at all. I manually run it about once a month. I never have viruses or anything of the sort.

gah... ;)

I've given up on anti-virus software in my last, oh, seven years using Windows (and I've used it for about ten). They all want you to pay, pay, pay, and try to install themselves as deep down as possible, with every "automatic" feature (ie. autostarting, services, etc.) they can. Running low on your "protection" time? Let the nagging begin! You may have found one with no added services--I have too--but in my experience, those tend to suffer badly in other areas, to the point that they aren't worth using either.

And which one to get to begin with... they all seem to have major annoyances... like trying to put EVERYTHING in one central program, including crap that has nothing to do with viruses (firewalls, spam filtering, adware and spyware, etc.), plus the resource hoggers, and those that break your system unless you uninstall (or even refuse to let you cleanly uninstall!). And yeah, I've seen some that don't hide any of those "extras" and are glad to shove it right in your face, to get you to subscribe to that too.

Of course, I've moved away from Windows about two years ago, so this doesn't effect me at all anymore. If I wanted to do a quick virus scan, I could use ClamAV, but I haven't felt the need to do a virus scan in so many years, it's not any funny... even when using Windows. Just some common sense and proper judgement when it comes to trusting third parties, and maybe a Google search, and I'm safe.

Viruses and trojans and friends vs. anti-virus software... if I had to choose one, I'd shoot myself. Thankfully, by using your brain, you can avoid malware without intrusive anti-virus software (though anti-spyware/adware like AdAware can be useful still), and by using a better built operating system, you can avoid them almost completely.

Edited 2008-09-05 05:40 UTC

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RE[3]: Comment by merkoth
by lemur2 on Fri 5th Sep 2008 09:23 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by merkoth"
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2007-02-17

I've given up on anti-virus software in my last, oh, seven years using Windows (and I've used it for about ten). They all want you to pay, pay, pay, and try to install themselves as deep down as possible, with every "automatic" feature (ie. autostarting, services, etc.) they can. Running low on your "protection" time? Let the nagging begin! You may have found one with no added services--I have too--but in my experience, those tend to suffer badly in other areas, to the point that they aren't worth using either.


Valid points.

If I personally have to set up a system with windows (as some people who I want to help do want me to do sometimes) ... this is what I would use:

http://www.moonsecure.com/

They might be asking for a bit of help (by people submitting undetected virus samples), but they sure aren't asking you to pay, pay, pay.

http://www.moonsecure.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id...
Moon Secure AV is an opensource antivirus currently using the clamav engine due to fast response time and huge AV database, however we are implementing another engine that is heuristic and will allow users to customize the engine on the fly. Unlike clam it has an enterprise level real-time scanner. It is built for windows and will run on XP and vista. It can scan portable drives and fixed drives. It is able to detect viruses, Trojans and spyware.

Our vision is to release an enterprise level antivirus, which can be used in any windows environment.

The aim is to provide a superior antivirus capable with competing with the market leaders and still at the same price, free!

We aim to be part of an opensource suite which will allow all users to still use the environment they are comfortable with but benefit from the terrific opensource community.


That seems like a pretty reasonable deal to me.

Being open source means that it itself contains no malware.

Edited 2008-09-05 09:25 UTC

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