Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 4th Sep 2008 21:33 UTC
Windows A few weeks ago, I reviewed the Acer Aspire One notebook, the variant which came with an Acer-modified version of Linpus Linux. This version was locked-down and difficult to modify, so not too long after I installed Ubuntu, and was reasonably pleased - despite the amount of tweaking it took to get it working. A few days ago, however, I realised Linux wouldn't be ideal for me on my netbook. Due to pragmatic reasons, I'm now running Windows XP.
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RE[4]: FAT, it's all about FAT
by agrouf on Fri 5th Sep 2008 11:45 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: FAT, it's all about FAT"
agrouf
Member since:
2006-11-17

Did you use ext2 on SSD? That's a big mistake if you ask me. Maybe you are not aware, but on SSD, we use JFFS2. Of course, you must have had very slow performance with ext2! jffs2 is a journaled file system, you don't have to choose to disable that feature to obtain good performances. It has been around for quite some time now and jffs3 will soon replace it. Flash memory doesn't work like hard drive at all and the ext file system isn't designed to be used on flash drive. It's like using a ferrari in the jungle. It's fast when on the road, but it doesn't make any sense in the jungle.

Edited 2008-09-05 12:04 UTC

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truckweb Member since:
2005-07-06

First, I installed WinXP simply because I wanted WinXP, nothing against Linux, but did not want to use it. Since Acer have all their drivers for WinXP, it's simple to do and I also have an external DVD drive so it's even easier to install.

Second, FireFox under WinXP is faster than FireFox under the Linpus distro on the Aspire One. I can also say that the wireless speed was better under WinXP. That probably helped Firefox to be faster.

I did disable everything I could to make NTFS work, but it was still very slow. That's why I reinstalled everything on FAT32 and thing got much better.

On another note, why all post talking about WinXP are modded down? Linux fans? Grow up.

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Did you use ext2 on SSD? That's a big mistake if you ask me. Maybe you are not aware, but on SSD, we use JFFS2. Of course, you must have had very slow performance with ext2! jffs2 is a journaled file system, you don't have to choose to disable that feature to obtain good performances.


Precisely so. The OP apparently knew enough to realise that NTFS gave unacceptable performance with XP using a SSD, and so used FAT instead, but did not realise that an entirely similar situation applied in Linux. Just as you cannot get decent performance with XP using NTFS on an SSD, so too you cannot get decent performance with Linux using ext2 on a SSD.

Ignorance of those facts by the OP has apparently led the OP to believe that Linux itself is slow and XP isn't.

It has been around for quite some time now and jffs3 will soon replace it.


Now that I didn't know. I had thought that Logfs was going to replace jffs2.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Uhm... What are you guys complaining about? ext2 sure isn't made for SSDs - but how about fat32? That sure isn't made for SSDs either! You guys would have a point if I used a log-structured filesystem on Windows, but not on Linux, and then compared performance of the two. However, as it stands now, there's an equal environment set up: two 'old-world' filesystems, boh NOT optimised for SSDs.

I don't like moving to relatively experimental filesystems, since you never know what you might run into.

As I expected when I wrote the article and pressed the publish button, a lot of people are so hell-bent on the idea that all what Microsoft does is suckage, and as soon as someone comes along who has the audacity to criticise Linux, he's an idiot, a moron, a Microsoft shill, or whatever.

I don't really care in the end, because I now have a netbook that outperforms the Linux installation, and whether you believe me or not (why on EARTH would I lie?!?), I'm still happy.

The next step is setting up a striped volume across the SSD and an SD card, which supposedly gives a massive speed bump.

http://www.aspireoneuser.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2360&st=0&sk...

This can be achieved with Linux too, of course.

Edited 2008-09-05 15:10 UTC

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