Linked by David Adams on Wed 10th Sep 2008 15:43 UTC, submitted by Michael Larabel
X11, Window Managers It has been one year and four days since X.Org 7.3 was released and a number of months since X.Org 7.4 was supposed to be released, but today X.Org 7.4 is scheduled to finally make it out the door! This release is shipping quite late and with a slimmed down set of features, but in this article we have more details on what this release holds in store for the Linux desktop community and why it may be a short-lived release.
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RE: Xorg 7.4 comes with a whimper...
by _txf_ on Wed 10th Sep 2008 16:44 UTC in reply to "Xorg 7.4 comes with a whimper..."
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2008-03-17

Then you'll probably be pleased to know that intel wants to release a special release this year of xserver 1.6 (xorg 7.4 comes with xserver 1.5). That release will have the neat intel features coming up uxa,gem and dri2.

Also as a bonus if Xinput2 is ready in time it will be included, allowing for multipointer X (which is already merged in the main branch).

But generally it is quite annoying that Xorg releases keep getting worse (delays AND feature cuts). It would be nice if linux based companies invested more in X.

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TechGeek Member since:
2006-01-14

May be a problem with finding quality software engineers. I know Novell/Suse are looking for people and having a tough time finding applicants to work on file systems. May not be the companies at fault, just lack of qualified people.

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FishB8 Member since:
2006-01-16

I think the problem has more to do with waiting for the companies with closed drivers to catch up. Even with all the advances that got cut from 7.4, the nvidia legacy drivers still don't support the ABI changes to the xserver-1.5 and their non-legacy driver barely makes the cut. And this issue has been known for quite a while. Not sure about drivers elsewhere...

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GhePeU Member since:
2005-07-06

It would be nice if linux based companies invested more in X.

That's exactly the problem. Development is so fast these days that whole technology get dropped or totally revamped before anyone can stabilize them enough to do a release (see DRI2).

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renox Member since:
2005-07-06

Well GPUs are evolving pretty fast so it's not a surprise that X has a hard time catching up.

Note this isn't necessarily the full story though: Linux sound's system is still unstable even though the hardware mostly stopped evolving many years ago.

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abraxas Member since:
2005-07-07

Then you'll probably be pleased to know that intel wants to release a special release this year of xserver 1.6 (xorg 7.4 comes with xserver 1.5). That release will have the neat intel features coming up uxa,gem and dri2.

I hope this is the case but I don't exactly trust Xorg release schedules. I wouldn't be surprised if we have to wait 6 months to a year until the next version is released, or we will get another intermediate release that lacks many of the features that were promised for xorg 7.4.

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cg0def Member since:
2006-02-12

I second that. I am getting sick of all the empty promises of the xorg team. For the last 3 releases they have promised that certain features will be included and then when the time came the features were delayed ... WTF only MS is allowed to do that ;)

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fretinator Member since:
2005-07-06

True, it's so bad I hear they are considering offering a 30% discount on this release.

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