Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 12th Jul 2005 20:16 UTC
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Ubuntu seems to be doing its best to kill debian. It draws away developers. There is only really one active member of the security team left, the others are with Ubuntu. With fewer developers, Debian moves slower, so Ubuntu leaves it farther behind. The current ABI change in Debian is crawling along.
It is a vicious cycle: Ubuntu moves ahead, users nd devs go to it so Debian slows, so Ubuntu has to move farther ahead. All the while Ubuntunuts crow with glee about survival o the fittest and how Debian should just die.
This would be fine (and the way things work) if Ubuntu weren't based on Debian. Without Debian, Ubuntu is a lot smaller. Debian maintains far more packages. I'd think about moving to Ubuntu myself if they didn't have such a small fraction of the number of packages Debian has. To use so many of those packages in Ubuntu, you get them from Debian, which Ubuntu is busy killing.
I'd have loved to see Debian go about their ABI change differently than Ubuntu did and just completely split things. I'd love to see Ubuntu stand on its own two feet, so when i hear about survival of the fittest it is at least true.