Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 15th Sep 2008 18:46 UTC, submitted by Michael Larabel
Xfce It's been nearly 18 months since the last major Xfce release - Xfce 4.4, to be exact. Xfce 4.6 was supposed to go final this month, but the Xfce team didn't meet the deadline. Instead, they released the first alpha release of Xfce 4.6, and Phoronix summarises the most important changes, including a number of screenshots.
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Comment by diego
by diego on Mon 15th Sep 2008 19:06 UTC
diego
Member since:
2006-08-15

Nice features, but it looks very similar to GNOME.

http://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=xfce46_alpha&image=xfce_46alph...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Gnome-2.20-screenshot.png

I will give it a try but I will stay with KDE4 myself.

RE: Comment by diego
by Piranha on Mon 15th Sep 2008 20:05 in reply to "Comment by diego"
Piranha Member since:
2008-06-24

Looks aren't what they're really aiming for. XFCE's goal is to make something as useful as the leading X managers, but keep resource useage to a minimum. It's known that GNOME and KDE3 are resource hogs and fluxbox is somewhat 'too' lightweight for some people's tastes. XFCE lies somewhat in the middle of these projects.

However, KDE4's goal now is to become a lot lighterweight, thus bringing on some big competition for XFCE. It will be very interesting to see how XFCE comes along with another X manager with similar goals.

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RE[2]: Comment by diego
by BluenoseJake on Mon 15th Sep 2008 22:11 in reply to "RE: Comment by diego"
BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

It's known that GNOME and KDE3 are resource hogs


uh, not really true. Gnome and KDE3 have more features, therefore use more resources. One man's bloat is another man's useful feature.

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RE[2]: Comment by diego
by Isolationist on Tue 16th Sep 2008 07:52 in reply to "RE: Comment by diego"
Isolationist Member since:
2006-05-28

It's known that GNOME and KDE3 are resource hogs and fluxbox is somewhat 'too' lightweight for some people's tastes.


That statement doesn't hold true as far as KDE3 is concerned. My laptop takes exactly 24 seconds to boot to a KDM prompt, and then takes a further 4 seconds to get to a working desktop.

All the KDE applications that I use are quick to load, very responsive, and feature rich. I have 512MB of RAM, and my KDE environment rarely uses the swap space; unless I am scanning images using a high DPI setting.

I have used XFCE4 on this laptop and it wasn't any different to KDE3 in terms of performance, responsiveness, etc. This made me go back to KDE3 because I get more features and the same performance.

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RE[2]: Comment by diego
by Laurence on Tue 16th Sep 2008 08:57 in reply to "RE: Comment by diego"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

It's known that GNOME and KDE3 are resource hogs and fluxbox is somewhat 'too' lightweight for some people's tastes.


That's quite a generalised statment.

I know people who are happy with Aero in Vista (they find it responsive enough for their needs as well as they like the looks).
I also know people (myself included) who find Aero anything but useful.

Personally I'm happy with KDE4 + compiz; everything runs at a good speed for me and (as vain as it might sound) it looks pretty. However 7 years ago I shunned both KDE and GNOME for fluxbox (due to it's minimalistic approach).

My point is this: KDE and GNOME maybe larger packages, but that's not specifically bloat. Sometimes the very features that make a project larger is the very features that attracts the user to said project.

Plus, compared to Aero - KDE / GNOME don't feel all that slow, so there can't be that high of a fat to meat ratio in KDE / GNOME.

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RE: Comment by diego
by cyclops on Mon 15th Sep 2008 20:44 in reply to "Comment by diego"
cyclops Member since:
2006-03-12

Desktop analogy...they all look the very similar. I actually used to set it in a very windows2000 kind of why. Its a layout I've only just moved from. It is GTK+y, but where XFCE really shines is Terminal and Thunder(The file manager) both of which I prefer more than any Linux or Windows equivalent. I moved off XFCE only because the desktop itself was weak, you couldn't select mult6iple things on the Desktop which really really annoyed me.

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RE[2]: Comment by diego
by dbodner on Mon 15th Sep 2008 22:02 in reply to "RE: Comment by diego"
dbodner Member since:
2007-07-01

I moved off XFCE only because the desktop itself was weak, you couldn't select mult6iple things on the Desktop which really really annoyed me.


Sure you can. hold control, then select the item(s).

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RE[2]: Comment by diego
by SomeGuy on Tue 16th Sep 2008 04:58 in reply to "RE: Comment by diego"
SomeGuy Member since:
2006-03-20

Right. Adding desktop icons was a mistake in the first place. They're useless if you actually have windows open, they're a waste of resources, and they add code complexity. (They're disableable, but the code is still there.)

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RE: Comment by diego
by SomeGuy on Tue 16th Sep 2008 04:56 in reply to "Comment by diego"
SomeGuy Member since:
2006-03-20

Yes, you can make it look that way if you want. That's certainly not the default look (except perhaps on Xubuntu, where they seem to be aiming for making it as Gnome-y as possible.)

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RE[2]: Comment by diego
by Doc Pain on Tue 16th Sep 2008 14:15 in reply to "RE: Comment by diego"
Doc Pain Member since:
2006-10-08

Yes, you can make it look that way if you want.


OSNews had featured two articles about how to make your XFCE 4 installation look like Mac OS X or "Vista", so if this is possible, why can't it made be looking like Gnome or KDE? :-)

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RE: Comment by diego
by leech on Tue 16th Sep 2008 05:03 in reply to "Comment by diego"
leech Member since:
2006-01-10

More like it looks like Gnome 2.8. In fact when I saw it, I thought "Hey, it's Gnome before they added the "Places" menu. Had to go far back enough to see what version it was. The first Ubuntu release came with Gnome 2.8

http://osdir.com/screenshots/index.php?directory=gnome2.8

Edited 2008-09-16 05:04 UTC

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