Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 15th Sep 2008 18:46 UTC, submitted by Michael Larabel
Xfce It's been nearly 18 months since the last major Xfce release - Xfce 4.4, to be exact. Xfce 4.6 was supposed to go final this month, but the Xfce team didn't meet the deadline. Instead, they released the first alpha release of Xfce 4.6, and Phoronix summarises the most important changes, including a number of screenshots.
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RE[4]: Comment by diego
by BluenoseJake on Tue 16th Sep 2008 10:50 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by diego"
BluenoseJake
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2005-08-11

He never said KDE and Gnome are bloated, just that they use more resources. Which they do, you said it yourself.

I would debate that KDE and Gnome could offer these features while using fewer resources, and I believe XFCE has been doing that as they add features, but that wasn't what the comment you replied to claimed.


No, but he did say "it's known that GNOME and KDE3 are resource hogs"

Same thing. I'm pretty sure being a resource hog and bloated are the same thing in tech world. I used bloated, he used resource hogs, but it boils down to the same thing. Which I disagreed with.

Edited 2008-09-16 10:53 UTC

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RE[5]: Comment by diego
by gilboa on Tue 16th Sep 2008 12:37 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by diego"
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2005-07-06

Actually, IMHO resource hog != bloated.

Resource hog is a general statement. E.g. VMWare will hog all your machine's resources if you run a number of heavy VMs. But the mere fact that it's hogging all the resources doesn't make it a bad product by itself.

[Beware: Even if you don't agree, PLEASE don't turn this into an pro/anti Vista thread. Thank you.]

On the other hand (in my experience) Vista is bloated.
As in, it was relatively slow on the dual dual Opteron machine that I tested it on (compared to 2K3 and Linux), without offering something in return.

[/Beware]

- Gilboa

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RE[6]: Comment by diego
by BluenoseJake on Tue 16th Sep 2008 12:59 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by diego"
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2005-08-11

"Resource hog is a general statement. E.g. VMWare will hog all your machine's resources if you run a number of heavy VMs. But the mere fact that it's hogging all the resources doesn't make it a bad product by itself."

No, you're right, it doesn't make it a bad product. Just like if someone believes a product is bloated does not mean it it's a bad product. Lie I said, one man's bloated is another man's feature packed app is another mans resource heavy.

I also think resource heavy == bloated in the public's mind, and in a lot of geeks minds. I don't find Vista bloated, I find it runs great on a dual core box with 2G of ram. You find that it is bloated. It's all about perception.

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