Linked by David Adams on Tue 16th Sep 2008 17:11 UTC, submitted by Flatland_Spider
Windows Builder Au looked closely at Windows Server 2008 and then listed the 10 things about the OS that left an impression on them. They looked at 64-bit compatibility, NT domain migration, and the licensing terms, just to name a few.
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Why is it that in Microsoft land...
by UZ64 on Tue 16th Sep 2008 20:08 UTC
UZ64
Member since:
2006-12-05

...you have to pay a super-premium and go out of your way to get a "server" version of a Windows operating system, just to have less bloat and annoyances, with better performance? As if their prices for their crappy "desktop" versions I've had to put up with for years aren't bad enough.

I always heard good things about the various Windows Server releases, yet I never did (and never will) use it if it requires searching Amazon for a piece of software that costs over a thousand dollars... just to run my machine which, chances are, already includes a *paid* license for Windows.

Pirating? No thanks, I'd rather not support this ripoff company *at all*. No "+1" from me to add to their ridiculously high "number of users" count, whether it's paid for or illegally obtained.

darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

I agree 110% on this point. Hopefully MS gets the point and strips the bloat out of their desktop versions as well... but then again I'm probably dreaming if I think that will ever happen after Vista. Honestly, win2k was the only desktop version of Windows that was pretty free of bloat and I actually enjoyed using. It wasn't intended as a mainstream desktop OS by MS though, it was targeted at corporate workstations (not that it really matters, but that's why most home PCs didn't get 2k unless you went out and got it yourself like I did). They stuck most home users with Windows ME which was the worst of the windows 9x series by far. My ideal windows would be an updated version of 2k--lean and mean and supporting all the latest apps. But I'm not going to pay over a grand for that, thanks, seeing as how OS X does everything I need it to. It's got a bit of bloat, but compare OS X to Vista in the bloat department and there's no contest. And I have OpenBSD for a good server os.
edit: Corrected my statement about win2k a bit.

Edited 2008-09-16 20:18 UTC

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major86 Member since:
2008-04-21

You can legally use Server 2008 for 240days as trial...
And I tend to reinstall my main OS every 5-6months anyway, so it's a good deal imho ;)
P.S. Doing so is much better than pirating...

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helf Member since:
2005-07-06

Why in the world do you reinstall that often? ;) I'm sitting here on a 7-8 year old windows 2k install. I just reinstalled my home PC with XP Pro (VLK, weee) but that was because I just completely rebuilt it from the motherboard up.

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google_ninja Member since:
2006-02-05

..you have to pay a super-premium and go out of your way to get a "server" version of a Windows operating system, just to have less bloat and annoyances, with better performance? As if their prices for their crappy "desktop" versions I've had to put up with for years aren't bad enough.


Because microsoft listens to its customers. You are in the extreme minority of home users, most people want to spend less time configuring things, not more. Server operating systems are something different, there is no need for alot of that stuff to be there, especially when it can lead to a larger attack surface.

IMO they need to add a "power user" sku that is basically 2k8 without all the stuff that actually makes 2k8 expensive.

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segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

IMO they need to add a "power user" sku that is basically 2k8 without all the stuff that actually makes 2k8 expensive.

What? You mean, like, what Vista should have been?

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BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

Vista and Win2k8 are virtually the same thing, the only thing missing is media center and sharing from WMP, upnp (it's there, but disabled), and windows search.

These are all features that customers want. If Windows wasn't able to stream media to the xbox or htpc's, customers wouldn't be too happy. Windows search is pretty handy, especially with a terabyte to search.

Remember, one persons bloat is another persons features.

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UZ64 Member since:
2006-12-05

Remember, one persons bloat is another persons features.

That line is seriously getting old.

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Milo_Hoffman Member since:
2005-07-06

...you have to pay a super-premium and go out of your way to get a "server" version of a Windows


Because Windows Server is nothing but a Single User Desktop Operating system with some semi-server based stuff bolted on.

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