Linked by Eugenia Loli on Wed 17th Sep 2008 23:09 UTC
Multimedia, AV Dirac is an advanced royalty-free video compression format designed for a wide range of uses, from delivering low-resolution web content to broadcasting HD and beyond, to near-lossless studio editing. The v1.0.0 version was released yesterday, and the new VLC version supports playback of .ts/.drc Dirac files.
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RE: Schrodinger
by Eugenia on Thu 18th Sep 2008 00:33 UTC in reply to "Schrodinger"
Eugenia
Member since:
2005-06-28

Basically, as an editor, what I need is this to take the codec seriously:
1. Port the encoder/decoder under Gstreamer, FFmpeg, mencoder with the patches applied by default, and Video for Windows, Quicktime.
2. Support for AVI, MXF, OGG, MKV, TS, MOV, and DRC containers on all of the above apps/architectures (if their architecture allows).
3. A sane GUI for encoder options under VfW (e.g. bitrate, colorspace) and Quicktime (pixel aspect ratio, field order, res, fps, bitrate, etc).
4. A decoder for Quicktime/Windows with an easy installer (encoder's installer should also include the decoder btw).

Then, this could be useful for me. But not otherwise. Having a 1.0.0 spec, and a third party encoder/decoder that plays with its own rules and doesn't even provide binaries, doesn't do it for me. I am not looking into playing with Dirac, I am looking into doing some work.

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RE[2]: Schrodinger
by KugelKurt on Thu 18th Sep 2008 04:22 in reply to "RE: Schrodinger"
KugelKurt Member since:
2005-07-06

1. Port the encoder/decoder under Gstreamer, FFmpeg, mencoder with the patches applied by default, and Video for Windows, Quicktime.

Dirac works with GStreamer ot of the box. At least on openSUSE. If your distro doesn't support it, bug your distributor or change the distro.
Dirac has also been ported to DirectShow and/or VfW. Dirac for QT: http://diracvideo.org/wiki/index.php/SchroQT

Edited 2008-09-18 04:29 UTC

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RE[3]: Schrodinger
by Eugenia on Thu 18th Sep 2008 04:29 in reply to "RE[2]: Schrodinger"
Eugenia Member since:
2005-06-28

On Ubuntu you need to install the gstreamer package, that's not big deal. But compiling from source ffmpeg or mencoder to get the encoder, is.

Regarding Windows, you don't get what I am saying. The fact that they have a DirectShow codec means nothing, because they do NOT distribute an installer, they only give you the source code, which for me and 99.9% others is useless as I don't have any dev tools on Windows.

As for VfW, no, it's not developed as from what I see -- or at least it's not released.

>Dirac for QT:

No installer. And more importantly, these packages can not be found on their main "download" page. This is a major mistake. People are not into searching endlessly for that stuff. Additionally, there is no quicktime for windows lib.

Edited 2008-09-18 04:32 UTC

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RE[3]: Schrodinger
by Yfrwlf on Thu 18th Sep 2008 17:11 in reply to "RE[2]: Schrodinger"
Yfrwlf Member since:
2008-09-18

Gee, if only I didn't have to install a different OS just to use a program. If only developers gave more thought to making things modular/pluggable and cross-OS/distro, this kind of crap wouldn't exist.

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RE[3]: Schrodinger
by grfgguvf on Thu 18th Sep 2008 22:38 in reply to "RE[2]: Schrodinger"
grfgguvf Member since:
2006-09-25

Actually I use Novell openSuSE 11.0, with GNOME, and no the sample Dirac videos don't work at all, GStreamer Schroedinger support needs to be installed and even then, the .ts format is not recognized by Totem, neither even VLC from the official VLC repo......

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RE[2]: Schrodinger
by elmimmo on Thu 18th Sep 2008 06:02 in reply to "RE: Schrodinger"
elmimmo Member since:
2005-09-17

You want support for the somewhat obscure AVI container while not caring about ASF, for which at least exists an official spec, and on which most WMV (and hence VC1) are based on? Why is keeping AVI around a desirable option?

Forgive my ignorance, and please correct me if I am mistaken, but there doesn't appear to be many current codecs that comply with all your conditions (that notwithstanding,I do agree any serious codec should be easily usable)

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RE[3]: Schrodinger
by Eugenia on Thu 18th Sep 2008 06:10 in reply to "RE[2]: Schrodinger"
Eugenia Member since:
2005-06-28

AVI is pretty popular. ASF, not anymore. It used to.

Look, all I want, is to be able to export from my video editor to it, and know that there's a decoder for my viewers. Currently, neither the exporting thing, or the decoding thing is taken care of properly.

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