Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 18th Sep 2008 19:09 UTC
Windows We all know that Windows 7 is on its way, planned for release somewhere late 2009 or early 2010. We already know it will have a multitouch framework, no major kernel and/or driver framework changes, and a new taskbar people at Microsoft are not supposed to talk about right now. The firs two milestone releases didn't appear to be very exciting, but now there is - supposedly - a milestone 3 (build 6780) release, and there is a screenshot, and more information on UI changes. According to Microsoft blogger Stephen Chapman, the ribbon will make its way to Windows 7.
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RE[2]: I like it... [cringes]
by hyper on Fri 19th Sep 2008 17:43 UTC in reply to "RE: I like it... [cringes]"
hyper
Member since:
2005-06-29

For Windows to move on, the Registry *has* to go.


May I ask why? Registry is much faster than text files. It contains standard API to read and write. And it has been proven many times, that registry *is not* the thing which slows windows down, contrary to what many thinks.

So why does it have to go?!? Just because you would prefer it? I don't think so. Many more people (including me) would complain about if its gone.

Actually using database is a very good idea for system settings storage. Just look at the mess which *nix config files are. Different syntax, random locations, etc. Registry just makes more sense. If you put all the stuff from registry to text/xml, can you imagine how many megabytes they would take? Can you imagine overhead to read/write? You can? Good.

PS. Yes, applications should store settings as files in AppData directories and that's what Microsoft encourages. But you cannot force everyone in thousands of 3rd party devs to do so.

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UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

May I ask why? Registry is much faster than text files. It contains standard API to read and write. And it has been proven many times, that registry *is not* the thing which slows windows down, contrary to what many thinks.

Ok, so maybe it's not what slows your system down. At least, not in NT-based Windows. Maybe it's not even faster than text configuration files. But it sure as hell is what's still keeping it virtually impossible from successfully backing up all your settings and data in Windows and transferring them to another machine, or even back on to the same damn system.

So why does it have to go?!? Just because you would prefer it? I don't think so. Many more people (including me) would complain about if its gone.

I won't complain. Its main use is "hiding" information from users, such as registration info, which shouldn't even *need* to be hidden. All it does is complicate reinstalls and moving one system to another. And Microsoft and other companies like it that way. Why? Because you depend on *them* for all your backup needs, such as for moving to a new system. Plus the fact that it makes it more difficult to move a Windows installation from one PC to another, forcing you to buy "moving" software when you buy a new Windows PC.

Actually using database is a very good idea for system settings storage. Just look at the mess which *nix config files are. Different syntax, random locations, etc.

Yeah, and I like it that way. It's not hidden and--get this--it's commented so you can understand how to read it. And even if it's not commented, it's still easy to figure out just by looking at it. And if all else fails, there are man pages to explain what you don't understand.

Registry just makes more sense. If you put all the stuff from registry to text/xml, can you imagine how many megabytes they would take? Can you imagine overhead to read/write? You can? Good.

The registry is a good idea in concept. In reality... it's a disaster and a pain in the f****** ass, and it ties you to one single machine. And even gives you trouble if you try to reinstall the same OS onto the same machine. Genious, ain't it? Yeah, I just love the registry...

Edited 2008-09-20 08:45 UTC

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RE[4]: I like it... [cringes]
by Kroc on Sun 21st Sep 2008 08:26 in reply to "RE[3]: I like it... [cringes]"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

Thank you for seeing reality.
In practice, the registry is a disaster.

It makes backup and restore in Windows a pain in any form. Windows geeks are given over to the idea that "Backup" means 'duplicating files to somewhere else' and "Restore" means 'doing a full re-install and re-configure'. That's not Restore, that's doing your annual re-install early!

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