Linked by Amjith Ramanujam on Sun 21st Sep 2008 06:46 UTC, submitted by Rahul
Linux Greg KH, Linux kernel developer delivered a keynote in the Linux plumbing conference about the health of the ecosystem. His message was essentially that distributions that don't contribute to the ecosystem have to rely on the whims of others which is unhealthy for them. Here is an introduction the development model and some interesting statistics about the Linux kernel code. Update by TH: Rebuttals are appearing all over the web, like this one by Canonical's Matt Zimmerman ("He's refuting a claim which has, quite simply, never been made. [...] When this sort of thing happens on mailing lists, it's called trolling."), or this one by another Canonical employee, Dustin Kirkland.
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RE: Rebuttals
by anda_skoa on Sun 21st Sep 2008 13:05 UTC in reply to "Rebuttals"
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But do the rebuttals really refute the numbers presented in the keynote?

No, but I don't think this has ever been the goal.

All of this is a classic flamewar pattern. We used to get them via NNTP but since blogs are the new usenet we get them via HTTP instead.

Greg could have just corrected the numbers of his Google Tech Talk and could have still pointed out where this puts Canonical relative to others.
However stomping on Canonical at every single data point is IMHO clearly just meant as flamebait.

On the other side the "rebutals" could have just pointed out which areas Canonical and Ubuntu can probably easily found among the top ten contributors instead of personally attacking Greg (pretty certainly everybody reading the slides knows that he is working for Novell and definitely all who attended the conference) or hiding behind excuses (if amount of contribution would be directly correlated to number of employees or profit. Debian and Gentoo wouldn't be at better positions).

We can of course still hope for a real rebutal, e.g. someone ignoring the flamebait and just listing which project's Canonical in particular or Ubuntu in general are highly involved in.
Probably not at the same level of the software stack that Greg used but maybe higher up, since any level of the stack is important for the whole anyway.

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