Linked by Amjith Ramanujam on Sun 21st Sep 2008 06:46 UTC, submitted by Rahul
Linux Greg KH, Linux kernel developer delivered a keynote in the Linux plumbing conference about the health of the ecosystem. His message was essentially that distributions that don't contribute to the ecosystem have to rely on the whims of others which is unhealthy for them. Here is an introduction the development model and some interesting statistics about the Linux kernel code. Update by TH: Rebuttals are appearing all over the web, like this one by Canonical's Matt Zimmerman ("He's refuting a claim which has, quite simply, never been made. [...] When this sort of thing happens on mailing lists, it's called trolling."), or this one by another Canonical employee, Dustin Kirkland.
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RE[4]: Rebuttals
by Thom_Holwerda on Sun 21st Sep 2008 13:19 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Rebuttals"
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Do you really think that Novell, Red Hat, MontaVista, Debian, Mandiva, Gentoo, and every other Linux distributor conspire against Cannonical?

Of course they all compete with one another!

People, these Linux companies need to make a living. Despite their fluffy bunny and green meadows image, these companies need to make money, and they are one another's competitors.

This is the prime reason why Greg attacked Canonical the way that he did. And it's the prime reason why the Canocical folks rebutted. If they weren't competing, there wouldn't be a need to act like a bunch of children in public, they would've worked it out together.

-1 for both Novell and Canonical.

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RE[5]: Rebuttals
by KAMiKAZOW on Sun 21st Sep 2008 14:48 in reply to "RE[4]: Rebuttals"
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Of course they all compete with one another!

I asked if he thinks that all Linux distributors form a conspiracy against Cannonical. That's different from competing with each other.

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RE[5]: Rebuttals
by sbergman27 on Sun 21st Sep 2008 15:30 in reply to "RE[4]: Rebuttals"
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Of course they all compete with one another!
This is the prime reason why Greg attacked Canonical the way that he did.

Style of competition varies from company to company, and from distro to distro. Novell, unlike most Linux companies, is still very much an old-school company at heart. They're the middle aged guy, with the bald spot on top, in his new red sports car trying to act hip. But they are not really hip. They're just play-acting. Novell's old-school tactics should be familiar to anyone who has ever watched Sun, IBM, and HP go at each other over and over in too many convention keynotes. It is not unexpected behavior for a "mixed-source" company like NOVL.

I've not seen these kinds of tactics employed nearly as much by the companies that started out as Linux pure-plays.

-10 to Greg K-H, though. He knows better but did it anyway.

My opinion of his character just dropped a few more notches.

Edited 2008-09-21 15:31 UTC

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RE[6]: Rebuttals
by AdamW on Sun 21st Sep 2008 17:52 in reply to "RE[5]: Rebuttals"
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"It is not unexpected behavior for a "mixed-source" company like NOVL."

Unnecessarily using a stock ticker instead of a company's name in an attempt to look cool really only makes you look like a complete idiot, you know.

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