Linked by David Adams on Wed 24th Sep 2008 22:44 UTC, submitted by snydeq
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y Linux Foundation Executive Director Jim Zemlin has said it is time for Solaris to simply move out of the way and yield the future to Linux. 'The future is Linux and Microsoft Windows. It is not Unix or Solaris,' he claims, contending that Sun's strength in long-lifecycle apps is giving way to Linux, as evidenced by the rise of Web apps, where Linux holds a decided advantage, Zemlin claims. With capabilities such as ZFS and DTrace, Sun is trying to compete based on minor features, he says. 'That's literally like noticing the view from a third-story building as it burns to the ground.'
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implicate_order
Member since:
2008-09-26

If Linux could not perform then Linux would not even be in the mix. But in the case of the companies I listed above, not only is Linux in the mix but these companies are running mission critical apps on Linux.


I am first-hand witness to Fortune 50 companies do an about-turn to their Linux strategy because it was very hard to maintain and operate a linux shop. It is a very different thing to run a few/niche linux servers in a large shop as opposed to run a large Linux shop.

Most of the popularity of Linux drives from the fact that Big-iron is/was on it's way out of the Datacenters after the dot-com bubble burst.

Horizontal scaling on Intel/like(Cheap/commodity) hardware called for something that would run on it ergo -- Linux, given that it was a unix-clone, especially when the other choice was *blech* windows!!

That has changed significantly since Sun started serious support of x86/x64 with Solaris 10. Try running your favorite flavor of Linux through a gamut of benchmark tests (try sysbench if you don't have anything else to run) and then run same benchmarks on Solaris 10 on a Sun 4600 M2 (8 quad-core AMD).

You'll see the difference. Linux doesn't scale.


Also out of the top 500 Super computers in the world 427 run Linux, 0 run solaris. 5 run Windows 2 run Mac OS, 1 is BSD based and 25 are UNIX (Mostly AIX cause IBM dominates the super computer market) and 40 are mixed mostly Linux and proprietary. So we can see where the world is going when it comes to high end computing and number crunching, Linux and real time Linux. And you would think that something like BSD or Solaris would rule this market esp with BSD being open source and so called so much better then Linux?? But BSD and Solaris with ZFS and DTrace are not even a BLIP on the super computer landscape??? I wonder why?


Grid computing relies on running multiple nodes on cheap/smaller hardware platforms (scale by number). So you can have a huge super-computing grid of 2-cpu systems running linux (same reason as given above).

Why aren't people switching over to Solaris?

They are.

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Windows Sucks Member since:
2005-11-10

Why aren't people switching over to Solaris? They are.


Who is?

Which companies?

According to revenue people are not buying anything from SUN? So I wonder who is switching to Solaris?

Edited 2008-09-26 22:03 UTC

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tpenta Member since:
2005-07-07

How about Greenplum and Fox? See Jonathan's blog of a few days back - http://blogs.sun.com/jonathan/entry/openstorage_and_really_big_data

The lead paragraph being, ...

"I just wanted to extend my congratulations to the team at Greenplum, and our joint customers at Fox Interactive Media - the folks behind MySpace, Photobucket, IGN, FOXSports.com, and a whole series of web properties that together represent one of the single largest audiences on the web."

Someone once said that when the only tool you have is a hammer, all problems look like nails, one might draw an analogy that when your focus is in pushing one OS you tend not to notice things that another might do that are interesting.

Alan (who while he works for Sun, is proud to *not* be an operating systems zealot).

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Windows Sucks Member since:
2005-11-10

Big-iron is/was on it's way out of the Datacenters.


Last time I looked IBM was making most of their money on "Big iron" in the Datacenter and Linux can run well on all that. IBM pushes it against their own Unix

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implicate_order Member since:
2008-09-26

"Big-iron is/was on it's way out of the Datacenters.


Last time I looked IBM was making most of their money on "Big iron" in the Datacenter and Linux can run well on all that. IBM pushes it against their own Unix
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That is a revival that is an aberration (as opposed to a norm). Most designs these days tend to be putting together applications on smaller boxes (identical hardware)so that, these can scale horizontally.

Tell me how many customers of IBM have actually implemented these monoliths?

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