Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 24th Sep 2008 21:47 UTC
Gnome The GNOME project has released GNOME 2.24 today. In case you're new here: "GNOME 2.24 is the latest version of the GNOME Desktop: a popular, multi-platform desktop environment for your computer. GNOME's focus is ease of use, stability, and first class internationalisation and accessibility support. GNOME is Free and Open Source Software and provides all of the common tools computer users expect of a modern computing environment, such as e-mail, groupware, web browsing, file management, multimedia and games. Furthermore, GNOME provides a flexible and powerful platform for software developers, both on the desktop and in mobile applications." GNOME 2.24 comes packed with changes.
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RE[2]: Unneeded stab at Nautilus
by tyrione on Fri 26th Sep 2008 22:43 UTC in reply to "RE: Unneeded stab at Nautilus"
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"So, unfortunately this release hold little value to me. And KDE4 takes a lot of strides forward and seems just a tad more interesting every day. I just happen to like the look and feel of GNOME so much that it'd be hard to switch.

I have only just recently managed to get KDE 4 running in a stable and useable way. I installed Kubuntu 8.04.1 for KDE4, then I added the Ubuntu Hardy kubuntu-kde4-members ppa repositories, and upgraded the system to KDE 4.1.1. I installed the new lancelot menu (which is quite reminiscent of Mint Menu), ditched the kickoff menu, installed the glassified theme, and installed the gtk-qt and qt-curve libraries that give a decent common style between gtk applications and qt (KDE) ones.

It is getting there. KDE 4.1.1 still doesn't allow different folder views on different desktops, which would unleash the real potential of folderviews (this will have to wait for KDE 4.2 apparently), but I can at least use it now whereas it was lacking before now. Amarok 2 beta is working OK ... although to get .mp3 support enabled I first had to install Amarok 1.4.something, enable the .mp3 support, then install Amarok 2 beta, then uninstall Amarok 1.4.something. There is no KOffice 2 available yet. K3B is still the version from KDE 3.5.9. Printer configuration support is still weak (for some things I had to use the browser web interface via localhost:631 to configure some elements of CUPs). I had to run a little bash script I found online somewhere in order to get flash player 10 working with firefox (since I am running the 64-bit X86-64 version).

SMplayer is great though ... far better than the Dragon player that is installed with KDE4 by default.

The point in all this is though that gtk applications work just fine, and with a bit of tweaking using the Qtcurve style and Glassified theme I can get them looking just the same as the qt applications. Even firefox 3, thunderbird and OpenOffice 2.4 are fairly nicely integrated into this desktop now.

BTW, Dolphin is the equivalent of Nautilis on KDE4 desktop, rather than Konqueror.

With a bit of tweaking, IMO it is possible to switch over. KDE 4 has all the promise going forward, IMO, compared with Gnome, and there is siginificantly less chance that you will end up with the mono libraries or other Microsoft dependencies (such as Moonlight) surreptitiously installed on your system.

I've always wondered how come each Virtual Desktop doesn't show a different kicker filled view for those apps/views specific to each virtual desktop environment. I could have 25 windows open with 4 virtual desktops but what I get are tiny little minimized references with that many application views open.

It's not a problem when you have 5 icons representing apps/views in today's kicker or yesterday's kicker, but when you've got multiple virtual desktops with specific app/views assigned to a specific virtual desktop, how is it we have to put up with a cluttered kicker?

I'd rather click on the virtual view and then load the view minimized specifically for that space than to just click amongst 25 icons to get to the right one. I'm comfortable wasting an additional movement/click combination.

While we're at it, what is up with the KWin effect that attempts to duplicate Expose and not keeping this behavior virtual desktop specific?

I mean, if I'm in Virtual Desktop 2(VD 2) and move to my active corner with the mouse or keyboard combination, I only want to see the cluttered views of that VD [in this case, VD 2] and no other.

But the most annoying behavior of all is the spurious mouse flying up to the active corner and giving me the Expose effect as if a ghost is running my X11 Environment. I realize that there is some serious work going into mouse geometry and curve paths in the upcoming 7.5, but it's damn annoying that I can assign the KWin Expose corner to any corner and once assigned the random ghost to the corner goes straight to that active hot spot.

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