Linked by David Adams on Wed 24th Sep 2008 22:44 UTC, submitted by snydeq
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y Linux Foundation Executive Director Jim Zemlin has said it is time for Solaris to simply move out of the way and yield the future to Linux. 'The future is Linux and Microsoft Windows. It is not Unix or Solaris,' he claims, contending that Sun's strength in long-lifecycle apps is giving way to Linux, as evidenced by the rise of Web apps, where Linux holds a decided advantage, Zemlin claims. With capabilities such as ZFS and DTrace, Sun is trying to compete based on minor features, he says. 'That's literally like noticing the view from a third-story building as it burns to the ground.'
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Windows Sucks
Member since:
2005-11-10

Solaris will never "Die" Nor will SCO Unix or HP-UX or AIX.

But if you looks at market reports it just doesn't look good for Solaris. Sorry to say.

1. Ubuntu beat Solaris in the 2007 - 2008 Server uptime reliability report (Done by the yankee group.) Ouch. http://www.iaps.com/2008-server-reliability-survey.html

2. Linux has a bigger market share then Solaris. Just like with Windows saying its not as good as Solaris wont stop it from being popular.

3. In devices, phones, set top boxes, PC's, Servers, Super computers, web hosting etc. Linux is every place, Solaris is no place.

The fact is you can say Solaris is better then Linux, better then Windows. In the end Windows and Linux have the market share and Solaris is losing what it had.

In the end Linux will be the king of the NX's and that is just fact. Solaris is not making a come back or some crap like that and ZFS, Zones, DTrace will not save it. Solaris will have it's nitch place like BSD and SCO unix.

It will always be "better" then Linux just will never again have the market share.

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Kebabbert Member since:
2007-07-27

We all seem to agree that Solaris is technically superior. We all seem to agree that Linux has a bigger market share. We also know that the best technology is not necessary the winner (Windows is a winner, with lousy technology. VHS vs Betamax. etc). Therefore, Linux might come out as the winner in the long run. I think the Linux camp, hopes that Solaris is abandoned and all Solaris high tech features are given to Linux. Then Unix will have the market share that Linux has, with Solaris technology. This is what the Linux camp hope, I suspect.



Another thing about up time. Ive seen reports that say that Windows have better up time than Unix. The reports are of no great value. Also, Solaris tend to drive big complex applications whereas it is very easy to make a Linux webserver doing a simple trivial thing. Lots of Linux servers doing simple things => good uptime. Even Windows will do great for simple things. That is the reason Windows had a better up time, I suspect.

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Windows Sucks Member since:
2005-11-10

Another thing about up time. Ive seen reports that say that Windows have better up time than Unix. The reports are of no great value. Also, Solaris tend to drive big complex applications whereas it is very easy to make a Linux webserver doing a simple trivial thing. Lots of Linux servers doing simple things => good uptime. Even Windows will do great for simple things. That is the reason Windows had a better up time, I suspect.


I don't know about most uptime reports. With the Yankee group report that I posted they look at OS's doing similar tasks. That means if they are comparing Linux and Solaris it would be in similar tasks. So it's just web hosting then it would be web hosting on both. Also they survey different companies on a list of things like Application serving, Databases, Web Hosting, File Serving etc.

What they find is that these days 95% of downtime that is not hardware related is patch related and boot time. So the downtime is based on how long it takes to patch and reboot and also how many patches require reboots. As we know if you look at just that then Windows can never win (Unless you never patch)

Eventually with Sun or not Linux will get similar tech to what Sun has just like Linux has similar tech to Windows and Mac OS. Once that happens Sun will be out of the loop. Once they are out of the loop the only thing that people will remember them for is Open Office. LOL!

Sun would of been smarter to make their own version of Linux including their own tech then to hire Ian Murdock and try to make Solaris into Linux. Not gonna work.

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