Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 7th Oct 2008 10:27 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Sunday we reported on an interview with an MSI manager, who stated that internal research had shown that the return rate for the Linux version of MSI's Wind netbook was four times as high as that of the Windows XP version. He claimed that the unfamiliarity of people with Linux was the culprit. This claim sparked some serious discussion around the net, but now MSI's statement is being repeated by Canonical, the company behind Ubuntu.
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Doh! moment later on
by lemur2 on Tue 7th Oct 2008 12:13 UTC
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Later on, when these machines have been selling for a while, and the Linux variants are common enough that those who are returning them now will see someone else using one ... then will come the Doh! moment.

"You mean it has all that software already installed ... nothing more to pay ... and you click on menus and toolbars exactly the same as for Windows ... except that it doesn't get viruses ... and it lets you browse and download heaps of extra software?

... Oh my.

I had one and I gave it back!

And now my Windows XP Home replacement machine doesn't log on to the company network, my machine is full of rubbish, spam and malware, and I have to pay once again for my anti-virus subscription.


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RE: Doh! moment later on
by darknexus on Tue 7th Oct 2008 12:37 in reply to "Doh! moment later on"
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Oh come on, hasn't that argument been run into the ground already? Stop flogging the dead horse, especially with the malware part. No one denies that Windows is full of malware and viruses. Know why? Because it's got 99% of the PC market. You really think Linux would escape a similar fate if someone really wanted to target it? Or OS X, for that matter? Yes, its architecture makes it harder and it would probably not be as easy to corrupt the system--this applies to all variants of UNIX and UNIX-like systems.. But is the customer going to give a damn when their data is all messed up? Oh crap, I was almost finished with that paper and now some Virus messed it up. Oh well at least my computer still runs so I can type it all up again. Never, ever, ever assume that you're immune to something just because it hasn't happened yet, that applies in all walks of life including computers. What is it with the Linux zealots running with this argument all the time? You're not immune, you're just not a big enough target yet, and they'd rather pick off the easy targets. Hell, even OS X isn't a big enough target yet.
As far as anti-virus solutions go, the free ones are good enough for most people honestly. They don't keep everything out but they keep the worst out, and that's all most people care about. So that kills another argument of the Linux fanboy, that you need an expensive anti-virus solution.
To make things clear, I'm not defending Windows or criticizing Linux here, merely trying to point out the flaw in this argument that many Linux lovers use as if it were a talisman. Linux is an operating system people, not a religion. Step back a bit.

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RE[2]: Doh! moment later on
by lemur2 on Tue 7th Oct 2008 13:54 in reply to "RE: Doh! moment later on"
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But is the customer going to give a damn when their data is all messed up? Oh crap, I was almost finished with that paper and now some Virus messed it up. Oh well at least my computer still runs so I can type it all up again.

It is interesting that you say this.

I have just got through (in the last 20 minutes or so) going through the exercise of rescuing my son's University assignment. It had taken him all week to prepare, and he was just printing it out (and was playing a game on the Internet while he was waiting for the print to finish), and had printed 5 out of the 11 pages when ... the printer stopped in mid page. The virus scanner popped up a message about a trojan being detected. It was impossible to cancel the rest of the printout. The word processor could not be closed.

He decided to try for a re-boot. Windows failed to re-boot, complaining about some corrupted or missing system files.

Oh what a sinking feeling, as they say.

I put a Knoppix CD in the drive, booted that, copied his files from his desktop onto a pen drive, opened them in OpenOffice, finished the printout and gave him his rescued project saved on the pen drive.

Ta da!

Lets see one of your fancy attack viruses (changed somehow to work on Linux instead of Windows) come up with a way to beat that rescue method. Even a virus beefed up to work on Linux won't be able to do much with a bootable rescue CDROM, will it?

We have yet to re-install the Windows partition on the machine.

I said to him it would be better to save your work on the NAS drive, because that way we could have just printed them from another machine. He told me he was thinking that he wouldn't be working in Windows again after that near-disaster experience. He'd had enough.

Edited 2008-10-07 14:01 UTC

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RE: Doh! moment later on
by rockwell on Fri 10th Oct 2008 21:22 in reply to "Doh! moment later on"
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//Later on,//

Like, in 20-30 years. Freetard dipshit.

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