Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 7th Oct 2008 10:27 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Sunday we reported on an interview with an MSI manager, who stated that internal research had shown that the return rate for the Linux version of MSI's Wind netbook was four times as high as that of the Windows XP version. He claimed that the unfamiliarity of people with Linux was the culprit. This claim sparked some serious discussion around the net, but now MSI's statement is being repeated by Canonical, the company behind Ubuntu.
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RE: GJ apologists
by irbis on Tue 7th Oct 2008 20:07 UTC in reply to "GJ apologists"
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Member since:
2005-07-08

windows belongs in the workplace, and that OSX belongs in the home. It is easy to illustrate the epic failure of each OS outside of those zone

In multimedia and publishing industry Apple Mac OS X has always been very popular. Many other companies and work places could prefer Apple Macs too if only they were a bit cheaper. Besides, many PC gamers could disagree too if they were said that they'd better run Macs instead of Windows PCs.

As to Linux belonging on geeks' machines only, that may be quite true still, especially among home users. Maybe Unix and Linux will stay as suitable desktop operating systems only for relatively advanced users? (Not necessarily a bad thing, by the way.) But that doesn't rule out the possibility that they couldn't - gradually and slowly though - become more popular in work and office environments too, where competent IT support is available, and when there is no need for some software not (yet) available for Linux or Unix.

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RE[2]: GJ apologists
by google_ninja on Tue 7th Oct 2008 20:44 in reply to "RE: GJ apologists"
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2006-02-05

In multimedia and publishing industry Apple Mac OS X has always been very popular. Many other companies and work places could prefer Apple Macs too if only they were a bit cheaper. Besides, many PC gamers could disagree too if they were said that they'd better run Macs instead of Windows PCs.


Publishers only release for windows because it is ubiquitous, and while directX is pretty good now, it has walked a long and thorny road to get to where it now is. If apple ended up dominating the home space, I'm sure it would not take long for publishers to start releases stuff for ogl.

As for multimedia and publishing, I would say that is more of an exception to my previous statement. Sort of like how alot of super high end CG work is done on SGI machines, but I don't think anyone would say that means UNIX is the OS of choice for creative professionals.

As to Linux belonging on geeks' machines only, that may be quite true still, especially among home users. Maybe Unix and Linux will stay as suitable desktop operating systems only for relatively advanced users? (Not necessarily a bad thing, by the way.) But that doesn't rule out the possibility that they couldn't - gradually and slowly though - become more popular in work and office environments too, where competent IT support is available, and when there is no need for some software not (yet) available for Linux or Unix.


Honestly, it takes a significant higher level of IT competence to deliver the same level of service when it comes to office networks. The MS stack is really unparalelled for about 90% of the kind of apps that businesses run on

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RE[3]: GJ apologists
by lemur2 on Tue 7th Oct 2008 22:47 in reply to "RE[2]: GJ apologists"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

"In multimedia and publishing industry Apple Mac OS X has always been very popular. Many other companies and work places could prefer Apple Macs too if only they were a bit cheaper. Besides, many PC gamers could disagree too if they were said that they'd better run Macs instead of Windows PCs.
Publishers only release for windows because it is ubiquitous, and while directX is pretty good now, it has walked a long and thorny road to get to where it now is. If apple ended up dominating the home space, I'm sure it would not take long for publishers to start releases stuff for ogl. "

Actually ... walk in to any retail store that specialises in games. The majority of the stock in the store will be written for games systems that do NOT use directx.

Honestly, it takes a significant higher level of IT competence to deliver the same level of service when it comes to office networks. The MS stack is really unparalelled for about 90% of the kind of apps that businesses run on


Honestly ... the MS stack is the only one that is hopelessly obscured and high maintenance, to the extent that it does take a higher level of IT competence to try to deliver it.

Replace it all with open systems and open servers ... IT nirvana.

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RE[2]: GJ apologists
by hobgoblin on Wed 8th Oct 2008 02:06 in reply to "RE: GJ apologists"
hobgoblin Member since:
2005-07-06

In multimedia and publishing industry Apple Mac OS X has always been very popular.


quick guess, adobe photoshop first showed up on a mac running a earlier os version.

so the old hats at computer aided graphics work gets to know both the program and the os intimately.

then they teach the next gen how to operate this.

and things go as they often do...

first time i spotted a mac in real life was a older one hooked up to a scsi scanner in the photo department of a local newspaper. i suspect the scanner was able to scan negatives.

i suspect its much the same that keeps ms office in use. that, and that ms office have become more of a RAD then a office suite the last years or so, thanks to integrated visual basic.

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