Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 9th Oct 2008 21:46 UTC
Windows The Engineering 7 blog continues its trend of detailing the real issues that people deal with when it comes to Windows. We have already covered their insights, usage data, and mea culpas concerning the taskbar, as well as their musings on window management. The latest entry on the E7 blog deals with a controversial Windows issue: User Account Control. The usage data has some interesting results, to say the least.
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The blog is great...
by suryad on Thu 9th Oct 2008 22:00 UTC
suryad
Member since:
2005-07-09

...the ideas are great and no doubt in my mind so are the people. They have fantastic charts and great presentation and are presenting a lot of data, but the question for me remains and this is because of the cynic in me...this is all great and all but are they just theorizing and thinking about these 'issues' or are they actually implementing solutions in to their product?

RE: The blog is great...
by sbergman27 on Thu 9th Oct 2008 22:13 in reply to "The blog is great..."
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

...but are they just theorizing and thinking about these 'issues' or are they actually implementing solutions in to their product?

More importantly, what difference does all this blogging make to the actual end product? How fairs the Engineer to PHB ratio at Microsoft? And where is it going?

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RE[2]: The blog is great...
by suryad on Thu 9th Oct 2008 23:06 in reply to "RE: The blog is great..."
suryad Member since:
2005-07-09

Yes that's pretty much what I meant you just worded it better for me thanks ;)

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RE[2]: The blog is great...
by PlatformAgnostic on Fri 10th Oct 2008 06:30 in reply to "RE: The blog is great..."
PlatformAgnostic Member since:
2006-01-02

The people who post on that blog are more on the PHB end than on the engineering end. I think that's a good thing, because they actually do seem pretty in touch with things.

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RE: The blog is great...
by poundsmack on Thu 9th Oct 2008 22:18 in reply to "The blog is great..."
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2005-07-13

i agree with you, thats my biggest fear. they had 6 years to collect statistics like this and there were plenty of opportunities ot in xp "would you liek to join the user bla bla bla program?"

with that being said, where was the thought process when making vista? but i am not mad at them for vista, they needed a flop to make them rethink things, make them go with this more open comunication model. it appears they have learned from this mistake.

so to anyone from MS who reads this. Don't rush Windows 7, dont set a date and extract features or enhancements to get there. if it gets done "when it's done" thats fine. just do it right and continue this open dialog you have going via the blog. we, the consumers, will be happy to wait for a polished product, but will be far less forgiving if the mistakes of the past are repeated. that being said, so far so good, you have my attention and i am impressed. keep it up.

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RE: The blog is great...
by google_ninja on Fri 10th Oct 2008 05:10 in reply to "The blog is great..."
google_ninja Member since:
2006-02-05

I was reading a trade journal the other day where sinofsky was talking about the expectations they built up during vista development by the transparency in the communication. People expected everything that was talked about every step of the way, and felt ripped off when they didn't get it. He said with 7 they are going to try being translucent instead of transparent, and I assume this blog is how they moved forward on that.

Don't expect anything except high level stuff from the windows team until they are almost ready to ship. All communication is going to be about process rather then progress.

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