Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 9th Oct 2008 21:46 UTC
Windows The Engineering 7 blog continues its trend of detailing the real issues that people deal with when it comes to Windows. We have already covered their insights, usage data, and mea culpas concerning the taskbar, as well as their musings on window management. The latest entry on the E7 blog deals with a controversial Windows issue: User Account Control. The usage data has some interesting results, to say the least.
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RE[2]: loving it
by StephenBeDoper on Fri 10th Oct 2008 12:40 UTC in reply to "RE: loving it"
StephenBeDoper
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2005-07-06

I'm with you though about the Norton branded products - their personal firewall was awful.


It's hard to imagine Norton making anything that *isn't* awful (well, other than Ghost).

Even removing Norton's crap is a hassle - I've literally seen the uninstall process for their "Internet Security Suite" take an hour and 45 minutes (during which the computer couldn't be used at all, because uninstalling required a reboot & the uninstall process loaded *before* / outside of Windows for some reason).

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RE[3]: loving it
by kaiwai on Fri 10th Oct 2008 15:07 in reply to "RE[2]: loving it"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

I'm with you though about the Norton branded products - their personal firewall was awful.

It's hard to imagine Norton making anything that *isn't* awful (well, other than Ghost).


Ghost was written by Binary Research, a New Zealand company which Symantec bought out a few years ago.

Even removing Norton's crap is a hassle - I've literally seen the uninstall process for their "Internet Security Suite" take an hour and 45 minutes (during which the computer couldn't be used at all, because uninstalling required a reboot & the uninstall process loaded *before* / outside of Windows for some reason).


What is even worse, the uninstaller never fully uninstalls it, there is always crap sprawled around the hard disk. What is even worse it is forcefully rammed, from my observations, into every single computer shipped with scare tactics employed when trying to remove. There has been a recent clamp down on 'scareware' - the current Norton software and the scare tactics used during the uninstall process, they should be prosecuted or atleast sued out of business.

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RE[4]: loving it
by StephenBeDoper on Mon 13th Oct 2008 18:56 in reply to "RE[3]: loving it"
StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

"I'm with you though about the Norton branded products - their personal firewall was awful.

It's hard to imagine Norton making anything that *isn't* awful (well, other than Ghost).


Ghost was written by Binary Research, a New Zealand company which Symantec bought out a few years ago.
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Ah, that would explain why it went to crap after the 2003 version or thereabouts (I think they replaced it with PowerQuest DriveImage, re-branded).

"Even removing Norton's crap is a hassle - I've literally seen the uninstall process for their "Internet Security Suite" take an hour and 45 minutes (during which the computer couldn't be used at all, because uninstalling required a reboot & the uninstall process loaded *before* / outside of Windows for some reason).


What is even worse, the uninstaller never fully uninstalls it, there is always crap sprawled around the hard disk. What is even worse it is forcefully rammed, from my observations, into every single computer shipped with scare tactics employed when trying to remove. There has been a recent clamp down on 'scareware' - the current Norton software and the scare tactics used during the uninstall process, they should be prosecuted or atleast sued out of business.
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Yeah, that's especially sleazy. Windows uninstallers are bad enough without "Are you sure? Cause your computer might OMG EXPLOAD!" pop-ups.

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