Linked by David Adams on Sat 11th Oct 2008 16:48 UTC, submitted by IndigoJo
General Development Eric Raymond is working on an essay, putatively titled "Why C++ Is Not My Favorite Programming Language". In his announcement, he calls it "an overcomplexity generator", "bloated, obfuscated, unwieldy, rigid, and brittle", and alleges that these characteristics appear in C++ applications also. I contend that many of the complaints about C++ are petty or are aimed at specific libraries or poor documentation and that many of the features commonly regarded as unnecessary (and excluded from intended replacements) are, in fact, highly useful. C++: the Ugly Useful Programming Language
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No surprise
by massysett on Sat 11th Oct 2008 17:19 UTC
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Whether it's about CUPS or Fedora, all ESR does these days is spout ugly, venemous rants about what he hates, even when it's rooted in nothing but some bad experience he had one day. No suprise he is doing it again.

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RE: No surprise
by irbis on Sat 11th Oct 2008 18:59 in reply to "No surprise"
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I think you may be a bit unfair to him. Of course he must have been doing many other things lately too than only ranting... ;)

I don't know about the lasting worthiness of his earlier CUPS & Fedora rants, nor about his many and sometimes maybe a bit odd or at least uncoventional opinions on many other subjects ( ) - but as for understanding the pros and cons of various programming languages, he seems quite a competent person indeed to talk about that subject.

In 2003 he wrote the book The Art of Unix Programming and he has written well-known and often quoted insigthful articles where he compares the pros and cons of various programming languages, based on his knowledge of at least two dozen programming languages:
- How To Become A Hacker
- Why Python?

You may, of course, disagree with him, but at least he has some good arguments and knowledge to support his opinions concerning the pros and cons of various programming languages, and to discredit his opinions concerning programming one should at least have better arguments than just to blame him for ranting.

Edited 2008-10-11 19:14 UTC

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RE: No surprise
by erikharmon on Mon 13th Oct 2008 16:40 in reply to "No surprise"
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"The paper is developing primarily from a software-engineering perspective rather than out of formal language theory. I’m particularly looking for empirical studies on the importance of manual memory management as a defect attractor (I have the Prechelt paper from the year 2000). I’m also interested in any empirical studies comparing the productivity impact of nominative vs. structural vs. duck typing." --ESR

It doesn't sound like it's going to be a rant. For the record, his rant on CUPS _was_ definitely a rant, but he was also right and CUPS got improved.

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