Linked by Adam S on Wed 15th Oct 2008 16:34 UTC, submitted by CIozzio
Windows Windows Vista is everyone's favorite tech punching bag, and not without reason. But the reviled operating system has some amazing potential and with some tweaks and a few utilities, you can do what Redmond didn't: make Vista great.
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RE[3]: Nice but...
by WorknMan on Thu 16th Oct 2008 01:19 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Nice but..."
WorknMan
Member since:
2005-11-13

BTW, this post is on-topic for this thread subject. The very best way to fix Vista on any machine is to re-format the drive and install a better alternative OS.


Well, you don't really need to 'fix' Vista because technically, it isn't broken. I have spent some time with Vista and I can say that as long as you feed it quality software and drivers that are compatable with it, it runs very smoothly. It's slower than XP and has a lot of 'idiot-proof' features that just annoy the hell out of power users, but it's not broken. Honestly, I don't know if any OS that's going to run happily if you load a bunch of bad drivers on it and install softare that wasn't designed to run on it.

It's just too bad that most people's experience with Vista is having it installed on top of XP with a 3yo version or Norton Something on it, or purchased from OEMs with at least 30 craplets running in startup. No wonder people hate it so much. On it's own though, Vista is quite capable.

As for Windows Explorer, just forget all that mess and install Directory Opus ;) Sure, you'll balk at the price as I did, but spend some serious time with it, and you'll never want to use anything else again. It is just light years ahead of any other file manager on the planet.

See, that's the thing about Windows... it's like Firefox without any extensions installed. It's not very impressive by itself, but what makes it great is the stuff you can load on it ;)

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RE[4]: Nice but...
by lemur2 on Thu 16th Oct 2008 01:45 in reply to "RE[3]: Nice but..."
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Well, you don't really need to 'fix' Vista because technically, it isn't broken. I have spent some time with Vista and I can say that as long as you feed it quality software and drivers that are compatable with it, it runs very smoothly. It's slower than XP and has a lot of 'idiot-proof' features that just annoy the hell out of power users, but it's not broken.


Google for "Vista" and "NAS".

Google for "Vista" and "proxy settings".

Google for "Vista" and "file copy".

These are just a few examples, apart from the ones noted in the referenced article (such as, to quote another poster on the thread, "the completely insane and useless automatic view settings in explorer"), of huge annoyances or just plain "don't work right" aspects of Vista.

Its broken alright.

Edited 2008-10-16 01:52 UTC

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RE[5]: Nice but...
by melkor on Thu 16th Oct 2008 04:23 in reply to "RE[4]: Nice but..."
melkor Member since:
2006-12-16

Sorry, but I couldn't help but shoot down some of your FUD, point in example:

http://artifact-ireland.blogspot.com/2007/10/problems-with-vista-an...

Quote: "However, the more recent and secure NTLMv2 is not generally supported by most NAS boxes. Consequently, a client attempting to login using NTLMv2 will not be able to access the NAS since it's responses will not be understood by the NAS."

Who's fault is this? If the hardware doesn't support it, then it's their problem, not the operating systems. If there's a "made for Vista" sticker on the NAS, then it's the damn well hardware manufacturer's fault, and they should be sued for mis leading the customer. Period.

I'm pretty sure we'll find that the other things you listed are the same sorts of issues...

If we were blaming an operating system for driver issues, Linux WOULD be deep in shit.

Dave

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RE[5]: Nice but...
by atriq on Thu 16th Oct 2008 05:43 in reply to "RE[4]: Nice but..."
atriq Member since:
2007-10-18

Add to the googling:
vista hp bluetooth printer

Just checked and HP still can't figure it out, just the same broken workaround they suggested over a year ago. It worked great great on my Dad's old XP-based notebook. His new one with Vista, not so much.

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