Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 21st Oct 2008 16:34 UTC
Since its release, the steady stream of updates have made Windows Vista noticeably less annoying to use. The biggest stride forward was the release of the operating system's first service pack, back in March of this year. Neowin.net now claims that the second service pack is on its way, with the first beta being dropped on testers in the coming four weeks.
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RE[6]: I am probably a troll
by cyclops on Wed 22nd Oct 2008 20:34
in reply to "RE[5]: I am probably a troll"
Member since:2006-03-12
Why is it MS's problem if OEM's put crap on their computers? They still get the profit from Windows. I bought a laptop from Dell, and all it had on it was Windows and Roxio. That's one of the reasons I bought it.
Because they should shop putting Windows Office trialware on it.
...and we now have full circle and you have made the same point several times, with several good responces to it.
I find it trivial to remove the adware installed on PC's I find it impossible to remove the applications and their frameworks from Microsoft. I think and re-installation is painful
RE[6]: I am probably a troll
by gilboa on Thu 23rd Oct 2008 11:15
in reply to "RE[5]: I am probably a troll"
Member since:2005-07-06
Why is it MS's problem if OEM's put crap on their computers? They still get the profit from Windows. I bought a laptop from Dell, and all it had on it was Windows and Roxio. That's one of the reasons I bought it.
Sorry. You can't have it both ways.
If, as you claim, MS shouldn't care about what OEM's put on their OS *, please stop using the old "Vista is fine; it's just the OEM's fault" argument every time someone claims that Vista is slow and/or full of crap ware.
... Then again, if, as you claim, it's just an OEM problem, what stops MS from exercising the same brute force it uses when it comes to selling XP licenses to netbooks and/or the same marketing power it used in the "Vista ready" program in-order to give their users the best OS they can possibly give... Unless:
A. MS has a vested interest in letting OEM's install this junkware.
B. You are not MS' client - the OEMs are; hence, MS doesn't really care about what you think.
... As you do not strike me as being stupid, I'm left to wonder why you fail to understand the problematic nature of your argument.
- Gilboa
RE[7]: I am probably a troll
by BluenoseJake on Thu 23rd Oct 2008 11:55
in reply to "RE[6]: I am probably a troll"
Member since:2005-08-11
Sorry. You can't have it both ways.
If, as you claim, MS shouldn't care about what OEM's put on their OS *, please stop using the old "Vista is fine; it's just the OEM's fault" argument every time someone claims that Vista is slow and/or full of crap ware.
If, as you claim, MS shouldn't care about what OEM's put on their OS *, please stop using the old "Vista is fine; it's just the OEM's fault" argument every time someone claims that Vista is slow and/or full of crap ware.
I don't claim that. I never claimed that. Read the whole thread.
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"You may claim that MS rather not get into a fight with their biggest clients about OEM software installation (let alone getting in the DOJ's face) - but please don't insult our intelligence by claiming that MS is actually a big scared cat that's incapable of controlling OEM installation"
I never said they were scared, and I never said they did not want to get into a fight, don't put words in my mouth. I said you can't blame them for it, blame the OEM's. Please, learn to read.
Why is it MS's problem if OEM's put crap on their computers? They still get the profit from Windows. I bought a laptop from Dell, and all it had on it was Windows and Roxio. That's one of the reasons I bought it.