Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 22nd Oct 2008 22:36 UTC
Apple Apple has presented its financial earnings for the 4th quarter of the 2008 fiscal year yesterday. Despite an across-the-board slump in growth, spectacular iPhone sales more than made up for the lost growth, beating the ten million iPhones claim. You can read all about it at Ars. What's more interesting were a number of remarks from Jobs regarding netbooks and cheap computers.
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RE[2]: Who's making junk?
by MobyTurbo on Thu 23rd Oct 2008 10:07 UTC in reply to "RE: Who's making junk?"
MobyTurbo
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2005-07-08

Stack about 6~7 Mac Mini's on top of each other, and you'll get that Dell. Can't do that the other way around.

Small Space == Cost.

Keep repeating this until you understand that your comparison is worthless.

You couldn't install that Dell as a carputer, or attach it to the back of an HD screen, or put it into an original Mac, or make a tiny server rack, or fit it into a G4 Cube or ...


Although hackers and modders might be doing that with their multiple minis, the mainstream markets that both PCs and Macs appeal to don't do that. What the Mac mini would be is an excellent general-purpose Apple TV, just replace the combo/super drive with Blue Ray and it'd be a perfect HTPC. It already is with boxee or xmbc...

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RE[3]: Who's making junk?
by IndigoJo on Thu 23rd Oct 2008 10:12 in reply to "RE[2]: Who's making junk?"
IndigoJo Member since:
2005-07-06

Which hackers are doing that anyway?

RAID is dead, long live RAEC (redundant arrays of expensive computers).

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RE[4]: Who's making junk?
by MobyTurbo on Thu 23rd Oct 2008 10:27 in reply to "RE[3]: Who's making junk?"
MobyTurbo Member since:
2005-07-08

Which hackers are doing that anyway?

RAID is dead, long live RAEC (redundant arrays of expensive computers).


123macmini.com

macminicolo.net

Yes, there are some strange people on the internet.. ;-) I'm not sure why kroc thinks the mini modder community represents the mainstream user of that platform.

(Owner of both a netbook and a mac mini)

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RE[3]: Who's making junk?
by Kroc on Thu 23rd Oct 2008 12:44 in reply to "RE[2]: Who's making junk?"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

Normal people do not totally ignore the size of something when it comes to price. Regular people expect to pay a premium for exceptionally small things.

Only a geek who sees a Mac Mini only as a set of numbers on a spec sheet to be matched to those of PCs would disregard the size of the machine. All of the PCs that are of the same size as the Mac Mini are more expensive or not equal on parts. (AOpen &c.)

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RE[4]: Who's making junk?
by MobyTurbo on Thu 23rd Oct 2008 12:48 in reply to "RE[3]: Who's making junk?"
MobyTurbo Member since:
2005-07-08

Normal people do not totally ignore the size of something when it comes to price. Regular people expect to pay a premium for exceptionally small things.

Only a geek who sees a Mac Mini only as a set of numbers on a spec sheet to be matched to those of PCs would disregard the size of the machine. All of the PCs that are of the same size as the Mac Mini are more expensive or not equal on parts. (AOpen &c.)

You forget about the eeebox, which is quite small, or the ShuttlePC, another Linux-based solution which is cheap and small. All a Mac mini is is a laptop in a desktop case, which is not expensive to make (the most expensive part of a laptop is the screen.) The Mac mini does have a form factor that lends itself to certain applications, especially home theatre PC applications, but that's a small niche - a niche that Steve Jobs clearly would rather sell the Apple TV to fill.

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